From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@lhnet.ca>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] make unregister_netdev() delete more than 4 interfaces per second
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:51:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ADB55BC.5020107@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091018161356.GA23395@kvack.org>
Benjamin LaHaise a écrit :
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 06:26:22AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> Unfortunatly this slow down fast path by an order of magnitude.
>>
>> atomic_dec() is pretty cheap (and eventually could use a per_cpu thing,
>> now we have a new and sexy per_cpu allocator), but atomic_dec_and_test()
>> is not that cheap and more important forbids a per_cpu conversion.
>
> dev_put() is not a fast path by any means. atomic_dec_and_test() costs
> the same as atomic_dec() on any modern CPU -- the cost is in the cacheline
> bouncing and serialisation both require. The case of the device count
> becoming 0 is quite rare -- any device with a route on it will never hit
> a reference count of 0.
You forgot af_packet sendmsg() users, and heavy routers where route cache
is stressed or disabled. I know several of them, they even added mmap TX
support to get better performance. They will be disapointed by your patch.
atomic_dec_and_test() is definitly more expensive, because of strong barrier
semantics and added test after the decrement.
refcnt being close to zero or not has not impact, even on 2 years old cpus.
Machines hardly had to dismantle a netdevice in a normal lifetime, so maybe
we were lazy with this insane msleep(250). This came from old linux times,
when cpus were soooo slow and programers soooo lazy :)
The msleep(250) should be tuned first. Then if this is really necessary
to dismantle 100.000 netdevices per second, we might have to think a bit more.
Just try msleep(1 or 2), it should work quite well.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-18 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-17 22:18 [PATCH/RFC] make unregister_netdev() delete more than 4 interfaces per second Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18 4:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-18 16:13 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18 17:51 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2009-10-18 18:21 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18 19:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 12:39 ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-21 15:40 ` [PATCH] net: allow netdev_wait_allrefs() to run faster Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 16:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 16:51 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-21 19:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-29 23:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 23:38 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-30 1:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 14:35 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-30 14:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-30 23:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 23:53 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-31 0:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-08-09 17:23 ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 17:34 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 17:44 ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 17:48 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 18:03 ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 19:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-08-09 21:03 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 21:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-21 16:55 ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-23 21:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24 4:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 5:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24 8:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 13:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24 14:24 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 14:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24 23:49 ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-25 4:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-25 8:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-25 15:19 ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-25 19:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 20:22 ` Stephen Hemminger
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