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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@lhnet.ca>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] make unregister_netdev() delete more than 4 interfaces per second
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:51:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ADB55BC.5020107@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091018161356.GA23395@kvack.org>

Benjamin LaHaise a écrit :
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 06:26:22AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> Unfortunatly this slow down fast path by an order of magnitude.
>>
>> atomic_dec() is pretty cheap (and eventually could use a per_cpu thing,
>> now we have a new and sexy per_cpu allocator), but atomic_dec_and_test()
>> is not that cheap and more important forbids a per_cpu conversion.
> 
> dev_put() is not a fast path by any means.  atomic_dec_and_test() costs 
> the same as atomic_dec() on any modern CPU -- the cost is in the cacheline 
> bouncing and serialisation both require.  The case of the device count 
> becoming 0 is quite rare -- any device with a route on it will never hit 
> a reference count of 0.

You forgot af_packet sendmsg() users, and heavy routers where route cache
is stressed or disabled. I know several of them, they even added mmap TX 
support to get better performance. They will be disapointed by your patch.

atomic_dec_and_test() is definitly more expensive, because of strong barrier
semantics and added test after the decrement.
refcnt being close to zero or not has not impact, even on 2 years old cpus.

Machines hardly had to dismantle a netdevice in a normal lifetime, so maybe
we were lazy with this insane msleep(250). This came from old linux times,
when cpus were soooo slow and programers soooo lazy :)

The msleep(250) should be tuned first. Then if this is really necessary
to dismantle 100.000 netdevices per second, we might have to think a bit more.

Just try msleep(1 or 2), it should work quite well.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-18 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-17 22:18 [PATCH/RFC] make unregister_netdev() delete more than 4 interfaces per second Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18  4:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-18 16:13   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18 17:51     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2009-10-18 18:21       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18 19:36         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 12:39         ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-21 15:40           ` [PATCH] net: allow netdev_wait_allrefs() to run faster Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 16:09             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 16:51             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-21 19:54               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-29 23:07               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 23:38                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-30  1:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 14:35                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-30 14:43                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-30 23:25                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 23:53                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-31  0:37                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-08-09 17:23                   ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 17:34                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 17:44                       ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 17:48                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 18:03                           ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 19:59                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-08-09 21:03                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 21:17                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-21 16:55             ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-23 21:13             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24  4:35               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24  5:49                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24  8:49                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 13:52                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24 14:24                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 14:46                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24 23:49                         ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-25  4:47                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-25  8:35                           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-25 15:19                             ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-25 19:28                               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 20:22                 ` Stephen Hemminger

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