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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Developers <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [net-next-2.6 PATCH RFC] TCPCT part 1d: generate Responder Cookie
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:16:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEEDBBC.40800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AEED23A.7070009@gmail.com>

William Allen Simpson a écrit :
> Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> cookie_hash() runs in a non preemptable context. CPU cannot change
>> under us.
>>
>> (or else, we would not use __get_cpu_var(ipv4_cookie_scratch); )
>>
>> And of course, each cpu gets its own scratch area, thanks to
>> __get_cpu_var()
>>
> Interesting.  I'm not sure that running CPU intensive functions like
> SHA1 in
> a non-preemptable context is a good idea.  I'd assumed it wasn't!
> 
> Perhaps you could point at the documentation in the code that explains
> this?

I suggest you read Documentations/ files about softirq

http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/kernel/generated/kernel-hacking.xml


Large part of network code is run by softirq handler, and a softirq handler
is not preemptable with another softirq (including itself).


> Perhaps a function header comment that mentions it?

So we are going to add a header to thousand of functions repeating this prereq ?

> 
> All I know is (from testing) that the tcp_minisockets.c caller is sometimes
> called in a fashion that requires atomic allocation, and other times
> does not!

Maybe callers have different contexts (running from softirq handler or
from process context). Atomic ops are expensive and we try to avoid them
if/when possible.

> 
> See my "Subject: query: tcpdump versus atomic?" thread from Oct 14th.

You probably add a bug in your kernel, leaving a function with unpaired lock/unlock
of notallow_something/allow_something

There are books about linux internals that you could read if you want some extra
documentation. Dont ask me details, I never read them :)

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-02 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-30 11:00 [net-next-2.6 PATCH RFC] TCPCT part 1d: generate Responder Cookie William Allen Simpson
2009-10-30 18:11 ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-01 13:01 ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-01 18:03   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-02 10:39     ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-02 10:50       ` David Miller
2009-11-02 10:56       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-02 12:36         ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-02 13:16           ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2009-11-02 17:21             ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-02 17:42               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 22:38     ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-03 23:03       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-04 21:48       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-05 12:17         ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-05 12:45           ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-05 13:34             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-05 13:19           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-05 19:44             ` William Allen Simpson
2009-11-05 14:59           ` Paul E. McKenney

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