From: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
To: Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
"Ira W. Snyder" <iws@ovro.caltech.edu>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] AlacrityVM guest drivers for 2.6.33
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:34:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B3254B4.2080602@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f73f7ab80912222215i39ba865dv95764f95fd57bd96@mail.gmail.com>
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On 12/23/09 1:15 AM, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:36, Gregory Haskins
> <gregory.haskins@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/22/09 2:57 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> * Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Actually, these patches have nothing to do with the KVM folks. [...]
>>>
>>> That claim is curious to me - the AlacrityVM host
>>
>> It's quite simple, really. These drivers support accessing vbus, and
>> vbus is hypervisor agnostic. In fact, vbus isn't necessarily even
>> hypervisor related. It may be used anywhere where a Linux kernel is the
>> "io backend", which includes hypervisors like AlacrityVM, but also
>> userspace apps, and interconnected physical systems as well.
>>
>> The vbus-core on the backend, and the drivers on the frontend operate
>> completely independent of the underlying hypervisor. A glue piece
>> called a "connector" ties them together, and any "hypervisor" specific
>> details are encapsulated in the connector module. In this case, the
>> connector surfaces to the guest side as a pci-bridge, so even that is
>> not hypervisor specific per se. It will work with any pci-bridge that
>> exposes a compatible ABI, which conceivably could be actual hardware.
>
> This is actually something that is of particular interest to me. I
> have a few prototype boards right now with programmable PCI-E
> host/device links on them; one of my long-term plans is to finagle
> vbus into providing multiple "virtual" devices across that single
> PCI-E interface.
>
> Specifically, I want to be able to provide virtual NIC(s), serial
> ports and serial consoles, virtual block storage, and possibly other
> kinds of interfaces. My big problem with existing virtio right now
> (although I would be happy to be proven wrong) is that it seems to
> need some sort of out-of-band communication channel for setting up
> devices, not to mention it seems to need one PCI device per virtual
> device.
>
> So I would love to be able to port something like vbus to my nify PCI
> hardware and write some backend drivers... then my PCI-E connected
> systems would dynamically provide a list of highly-efficient "virtual"
> devices to each other, with only one 4-lane PCI-E bus.
Hi Kyle,
We indeed have others that are doing something similar. I have CC'd Ira
who may be able to provide you more details. I would also point you at
the canonical example for what you would need to write to tie your
systems together. Its the "null connector", which you can find here:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/ghaskins/alacrityvm/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=kernel/vbus/connectors/null.c;h=b6d16cb68b7e49e07528278bc9f5b73e1dac0c2f;hb=HEAD
Do not hesitate to ask any questions, though you may want to take the
conversation to the alacrityvm-devel list as to not annoy the current CC
list any further than I already have ;)
Kind Regards,
-Greg
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Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-07 18:53 [GIT PULL] AlacrityVM guest drivers for 2.6.33 Gregory Haskins
2009-12-18 21:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-21 15:34 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 16:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 16:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 16:56 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 17:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 17:24 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 16:46 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 17:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 17:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 0:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-22 7:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-22 11:49 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-22 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-22 16:01 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-22 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 6:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23 10:13 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 10:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 12:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 17:00 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-23 17:20 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 15:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 17:52 ` [Alacrityvm-devel] " Peter W. Morreale
2009-12-23 18:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 18:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-23 18:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 20:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 21:21 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 9:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-27 13:18 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-27 13:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 13:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-28 1:01 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 18:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23 19:27 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 20:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-24 6:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-24 20:41 ` Roland Dreier
2009-12-23 13:07 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-23 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 14:08 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-23 14:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 18:31 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-23 16:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 17:10 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 17:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-23 23:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 17:33 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 20:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 21:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-24 9:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 9:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-27 13:34 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 13:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-27 14:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-24 9:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 9:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 16:21 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-22 16:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-22 17:33 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-22 17:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 21:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 0:02 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-23 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 15:17 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-22 17:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 20:41 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 7:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-22 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-22 17:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 18:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 18:56 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 19:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:37 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 19:41 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 19:47 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 19:39 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-12-22 19:53 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 1:05 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-12-23 6:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-12-23 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 19:54 ` [Alacrityvm-devel] " Ira W. Snyder
2009-12-23 22:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 23:42 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-12-24 17:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-25 0:38 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-12-24 4:52 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-12-24 16:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 17:34 ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2009-12-23 19:28 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-12-23 19:50 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-24 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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