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From: Damian Lukowski <damian@tvk.rwth-aachen.de>
To: Jerry Chu <hkchu@google.com>
Cc: ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][v4] tcp: fix ICMP-RTO war
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 10:30:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE5213C.1030300@tvk.rwth-aachen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <n2gd1c2719f1005071625nd3df3d72t9655a1f64f2fd825@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm working on a patch that tries to measure and use the RTT for the passive
> open side when the TS option is NOT enabled. My code conflicts with your
> recently added "tcp_ack_update_rtt(sk, 0, 0);" Could you tell me why do you
> force this call for the no-TS case when obviously "0" is not a measured RTT?
> If you try to force icsk_rto to be initialized correctly, it is
> already initialized to
> TCP_TIMEOUT_INIT by tcp_create_openreq_child(). What am I missing?

Hi,
the backoff reversion code uses __tcp_set_rto() to recalculate icsk_rto,
which itself relies on tp->srtt and rttvar.
srtt is explicitly set to 0 in tcp_create_openreq_child(), so I didn't change it.
Initializing it with TCP_TIMEOUT_INIT should also fix that specific bug,
but I don't know if there are other impacts.

Regards
 Damian

> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry
> 
>> From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
>>
>> Date: Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH][v4] tcp: fix ICMP-RTO war
>> To: ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi
>> Cc: damian@tvk.rwth-aachen.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org
>>
>>
>> From: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>
>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:45:25 +0200 (EET)
>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Damian Lukowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> @@ -5783,12 +5783,10 @@ int tcp_rcv_state_process(struct sock *sk, struct sk_buff *skb,
>>>>
>>>>                              /* tcp_ack considers this ACK as duplicate
>>>>                               * and does not calculate rtt.
>>>> -                             * Fix it at least with timestamps.
>>>> +                             * Force it here.
>>>>                               */
>>>> -                            if (tp->rx_opt.saw_tstamp &&
>>>> -                                tp->rx_opt.rcv_tsecr && !tp->srtt)
>>>> -                                    tcp_ack_saw_tstamp(sk, 0);
>>>> -
>>>> +                            tcp_ack_update_rtt(sk, 0, 0);
>>>> +
>>>
>>> ...Here a zero seq_rtt is given to RTT estimator (it will be effective
>>> only in the case w/o timestamps, TS case recalculates it from the stored
>>> timestamps). Maybe we could use some field (timestamp related one comes to
>>> my mind) in request sock to get a real RTT estimate for non-timestamp case
>>> too. ...It seems possible to me, though tricky because the request_sock is
>>> no longer that easily available here so some parameter passing would be
>>> needed.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> But even more simply I think we should make even the current
>> tcp_ack_update_rtt() call here conditional on at least
>> tp->srtt being zero.
>>
>> Damian do you at least agree with that?
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-08  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-10 19:06 [PATCH][v4] tcp: fix ICMP-RTO war Damian Lukowski
2010-02-10 19:08 ` David Miller
2010-02-11  2:04 ` David Miller
2010-02-16 12:45 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2010-02-22  2:10   ` David Miller
     [not found]     ` <o2z349f35ee1005071622z38fcd66ek398402d7512542ae@mail.gmail.com>
2010-05-07 23:25       ` Jerry Chu
2010-05-08  8:30         ` Damian Lukowski [this message]
2010-05-08 17:27           ` Jerry Chu
2010-05-08 22:00             ` Ilpo Järvinen

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