From: Philip Prindeville <philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com>
To: Ben Gardiner <bengardiner@nanometrics.ca>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
dunc@lemonia.org, kalle.valo@iki.fi, kaber@trash.net,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network QoS support in applications
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 14:28:26 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C041BEA.2010303@redfish-solutions.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTindWCmxtAJU5R3ey_18_3wNUuMGc-jq_EY_itiN@mail.gmail.com>
On 5/31/10 1:30 PM, Ben Gardiner wrote:
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Philip A. Prindeville
> <philipp@redfish-solutions.com> wrote:
>
>> On 03/11/2010 12:29 PM, Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/11/2010 12:27 PM, David Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Philip A. Prindeville"<philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:21:11 -0700
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And yes, there will always be misbehaving users. They are a fact of
>>>>> life. That doesn't mean we should lobotomize the network. We don't
>>>>> have an authentication mechanism on ICMP Redirects or Source-Quench,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Which is why most networks block those packets from the outside.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nor is ARP authenticated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Which is why people control who can plug into their physical
>>>> network.
>>>>
>>>> None of the things you are saying support the idea of having
>>>> applications decide what the DSCP marking should be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Does "decide what the DSCP marking should be" include complying to the recommendations of RFC-4594?
>>>
>>>
>> If anyone cares, here's an update:
>>
>> I've submitted patches for QoS configuration for:
>>
>> APR/Apache (stalled);
>> Proftpd (committed);
>> Openssh (pending review);
>> Firefox/Thunderbird (reviewed and on-track for commit);
>> Cyrus (committed);
>> Sendmail (submittted and acknowledged, but not yet reviewed);
>> Curl (stalled);
>>
>> All, as per the request of the maintainers, default to either no QoS
>> markings or previous RFC-791 QoS markings if that's what they already
>> supported (Proftpd and Openssh).
>>
>> If anyone can think of anything else that needs to be supported to
>> impact a significant portion of network (or enterprise intranet)
>> traffic, please call it out.
>>
> wget [1], like curl, is used for downloads of artifacts by some build systems.
>
> [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/
>
>
Ok, but I'm not sure that changes anything... what I was asking about
was other services not enumerated: not how the above services are used.
Sorry that wasn't clear.
-Philip
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-31 20:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-26 8:27 Network QoS support in applications Kalle Valo
[not found] ` <87k4v5nuej.fsf-ySPBbPOLdCfMApvqMRVM/A@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 11:30 ` Patrick McHardy
[not found] ` <4B5ED254.7010104-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 11:51 ` Kalle Valo
[not found] ` <877hr5nkx0.fsf-ySPBbPOLdCfMApvqMRVM/A@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 11:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 12:16 ` David Miller
2010-01-26 12:56 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 13:06 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20100126.050645.184040277.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 13:47 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 14:02 ` Dunc
[not found] ` <4B5EF5DF.2070005-9b9L1Hpe0sBAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 14:27 ` Kalle Valo
[not found] ` <87iqaplz5a.fsf-ySPBbPOLdCfMApvqMRVM/A@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 21:54 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-01-27 7:11 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-27 1:57 ` Zhu Yi
2010-01-27 13:24 ` Benny Amorsen
2010-03-11 19:21 ` Philip A. Prindeville
[not found] ` <4B9942A7.40205-9z15yex7P+UJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 19:27 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20100311.112754.142886660.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 19:29 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-05-19 0:04 ` Philip A. Prindeville
[not found] ` <4BF32B2B.6010202-9z15yex7P+UJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-31 19:30 ` Ben Gardiner
2010-05-31 20:28 ` Philip Prindeville [this message]
2010-01-26 14:43 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
[not found] ` <87wrz5m3cd.fsf-ySPBbPOLdCfMApvqMRVM/A@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 13:06 ` Henning Rogge
2010-01-27 6:59 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 15:29 ` Steven Blake
2010-01-27 7:03 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-27 16:18 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-03-11 18:56 ` Philip A. Prindeville
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