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From: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
To: Flavio Leitner <fbl@sysclose.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, fubar@us.ibm.com, mpm@selenic.com,
	gospo@redhat.com, nhorman@tuxdriver.com, jmoyer@redhat.com,
	shemminger@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	bonding-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netconsole: queue console messages to send later
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:59:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C0E0685.9040908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100608003707.GA30604@sysclose.org>


Thanks for your fix, Flavio!

On 06/08/10 08:37, Flavio Leitner wrote:
>> There may not be another timer or workqueue able to execute after the
>> printk() we're trying to emit.  We may never get to that point.
>
> What if in the netpoll, before we push the skb to the driver, we check
> for a bit saying that it's already pushing another skb. In this case,
> queue the new skb inside of netpoll and soon as the first call returns
> and try to clear the bit, it will send the next skb?
>
> printk("message 1")
> ...
> netconsole called
> netpoll sets the flag bit
> pushes to the bonding driver which does another printk("message 2")
> netconsole called again
> netpoll checks for the flag, queue the message, returns.
> so, bonding can finish up to send the first message
> netpoll is about to return, checks for new queued messages, and pushes them.
> bonding finishes up to send the second message
> ....
>
> No deadlocks, skbs are ordered and still under the same opportunity
> to send something. Does it sound acceptable?
> It's off the top of my head, so probably this idea has some problems.
>


I am not a net expert, I am not sure if this solution really addresses
David's concern, but it makes sense for me.

>
>> Fix the locking in the drivers or layers that cause the issue instead
>> of breaking netconsole.
>
> Someday, somewhere, I know because I did this before, someone will
> use a debugging printk() and will see the entire box hanging with
> absolutely no message in any console because of this problem.
> I'm not saying that fixing driver isn't the right way to go but
> it seems not enough to me.

Well, I think netconsole is not alone, other console drivers could
have the same problem, printk() is not always available in some
situation like this.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-08  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-05  8:11 [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and bonding devices Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11 ` [v5 Patch 2/3] bridge: make bridge support netpoll Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11 ` [v5 Patch 3/3] bonding: make bonding " Amerigo Wang
2010-05-06  2:05 ` [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and bonding devices Matt Mackall
2010-05-06  7:44   ` David Miller
2010-05-07  3:24     ` Cong Wang
2010-05-27 18:05 ` Flavio Leitner
2010-05-27 20:35   ` David Miller
2010-05-27 21:25     ` Flavio Leitner
2010-05-28  2:47   ` Cong Wang
2010-05-28 19:40     ` Flavio Leitner
2010-05-31  5:56       ` Cong Wang
2010-05-31 19:08         ` Flavio Leitner
2010-06-01  9:57           ` Cong Wang
2010-06-01 18:42             ` Jay Vosburgh
2010-06-02 10:04               ` Cong Wang
2010-06-04 19:18                 ` Andy Gospodarek
2010-06-07  9:57                   ` Cong Wang
2010-06-07 10:01                     ` David Miller
2010-06-08  8:36                       ` Cong Wang
2010-06-07 13:03                     ` Andy Gospodarek
2010-06-08  8:38                       ` Cong Wang
2010-06-07 19:24               ` [PATCH] netconsole: queue console messages to send later Flavio Leitner
2010-06-07 19:50                 ` Matt Mackall
2010-06-07 20:00                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-06-07 20:21                     ` Matt Mackall
2010-06-07 23:52                       ` David Miller
2010-06-07 23:50                 ` David Miller
2010-06-08  0:37                   ` Flavio Leitner
2010-06-08  8:59                     ` Cong Wang [this message]
2010-05-28  8:16   ` [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and bonding devices Cong Wang
2010-05-28 20:42     ` Flavio Leitner
2010-05-28 21:03       ` Jay Vosburgh
2010-05-31  5:29         ` Cong Wang
2010-05-31  5:37           ` Cong Wang

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