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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: "H.K. Jerry Chu" <hkjerry.chu@gmail.com>
Cc: Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	davidsen@tmr.com, lists@wildgooses.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Raise initial congestion window size / speedup slow start?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:08:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C448688.1070507@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil_c-TH6k2BDW2r5c0HYXFxiu85aMda1bT0nJt3@mail.gmail.com>

H.K. Jerry Chu wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com> wrote:
>>can you tell us more about the impl concerns of initcwnd stored on the
>>route?
> 
> 
> We have found two issues when altering initcwnd through the ip route cmd:
> 1. initcwnd is actually capped by sndbuf (i.e., tcp_wmem[1], which is
> defaulted to a small value of 16KB). This problem has been made obscured
> by the TSO code, which fudges the flow control limit (and could be a bug by
> itself).

I'll ask my Emily Litella question of the day and inquire as to why that would 
be unique to altering initcwnd via the route?

The slightly less Emily Litella-esque question is why an appliction with a 
desire to know it could send more than 16K at one time wouldn't have either 
asked via its install docs to have the minimum tweaked (certainly if one is 
already tweaking routes...), or "gone all the way" and made an explicit 
setsockopt(SO_SNDBUF) call?  We are in a realm of applications for which there 
was a proposal to allow them to pick their own initcwnd right?  Having them pick 
an SO_SNDBUF size would seem to be no more to ask.

rick jones

sendbuf_init = max(tcp_mem,initcwnd)?

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4C3D94E3.9080103@wildgooses.com>
     [not found] ` <4C3DD5EB.9070908@tmr.com>
2010-07-14 18:15   ` Raise initial congestion window size / speedup slow start? David Miller
2010-07-14 18:48     ` Ed W
2010-07-14 19:10       ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-07-14 21:47         ` Mitchell Erblich
2010-07-14 20:17       ` Rick Jones
2010-07-14 20:39         ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 21:55           ` David Miller
2010-07-14 22:13             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 22:19               ` Rick Jones
2010-07-14 22:40                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 22:52               ` Ed W
2010-07-14 23:01                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 23:05                   ` Ed W
2010-07-15  3:49               ` Bill Fink
2010-07-15  5:29                 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-15 19:51                   ` Rick Jones
2010-07-15 20:48                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-07-16  0:23                       ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-16  9:03                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-15 10:33               ` Alan Cox
2010-07-14 22:05           ` Ed W
2010-07-14 22:36             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 23:01               ` Ed W
2010-07-15  4:12           ` Tom Herbert
2010-07-15  7:48             ` Ed W
2010-07-15 17:36               ` Jerry Chu
2010-07-15  5:09           ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-15  2:52     ` Bill Fink
2010-07-15  4:51     ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-16 17:01       ` Patrick McManus
2010-07-16 17:41         ` Ed W
2010-07-17  1:23           ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-17  0:36         ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-19 17:08           ` Rick Jones [this message]
2010-07-19 22:51             ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-19 23:42               ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-15 23:14     ` Bill Davidsen

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