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From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Cc: "James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	"Lukas Kolbe" <lkolbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>,
	"Kai Mäkisara" <kai.makisara@kolumbus.fi>,
	"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Kashyap Desai" <Kashyap.Desai@lsi.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: After memory pressure: can't read from tape anymore
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:27:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D08EC7E.5080201@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101214142320.27d911d5@nehalam>

Stephen Hemminger, on 12/15/2010 01:23 AM wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:35:37 +0300
> Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net> wrote:
> 
>> What is interesting to me in this regard is how networking with 9K jumbo
>> frames manages to work acceptably reliable? Jumbo frames used
>> sufficiently often, including under high memory pressure.
>>
>> I'm not a deep networking guru, but network drivers need to allocate
>> physically continual memory for skbs, which means 16K per 9K packet,
>> which means order 2 allocations per skb.
> 
> Good network drivers support fragmentation and allocate a small portion
> for the header and allocate pages for the rest. This requires no higher
> order allocation. The networking stack takes fragmented data coming
> in and does the necessary copy/merging to access contiguous headers.
> 
> There are still some crap network drivers that require large contiguous
> allocation. These should not be used with jumbo frames in real
> environments.

I see. Thanks for clarifying it.

Vlad




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2010-12-14 20:35             ` After memory pressure: can't read from tape anymore Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-12-14 22:23               ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-12-15 16:27                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]

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