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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>
To: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"therbert@google.com" <therbert@google.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Simplified 16 bit Toeplitz hash algorithm
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:52:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2228E0.9030908@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294083039.3167.184.camel@localhost>

On 1/3/2011 11:30 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 11:02 -0800, David Miller wrote:
>> From: Tom Herbert<therbert@google.com>
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:47:20 -0800
>>
>>> I'm not sure why this would be needed.  What is the a advantage in
>>> making the TX and RX queues match?
>>
>> That's how their hardware based RFS essentially works.
>>
>> Instead of watching for "I/O system calls" like we do in software, the
>> chip watches for which TX queue a flow ends up on and matches things
>> up on the receive side with the same numbered RX queue to match.
>
> ixgbe also implements IRQ affinity setting (or rather hinting) and TX
> queue selection by CPU, the inverse of IRQ affinity setting.  Together
> with the hardware/firmware Flow Director feature, this should indeed
> result in hardware RFS.  (However, irqbalanced does not yet follow the
> affinity hints AFAIK, so this requires some manual intervention.  Maybe
> the OOT driver is different?)
>
> The proposed change to make TX queue selection hash-based seems to be a
> step backwards.
>
> Ben.
>

Actually this code would only be applied in the case where Flow Director 
didn't apply such as non-TCP frames.  It would essentially guarantee 
that we end up with TX/RX on the same CPU for all cases instead of just 
when Flow Director matches a given flow.

The general idea is to at least keep the traffic local to one TX/RX 
queue pair so that if we cannot match the queue pair to the application, 
perhaps the application can be affinitized to match up with the queue 
pair.  Otherwise we end up with traffic getting routed to one TX queue 
on one CPU, and the RX being routed to another queue on perhaps a 
different CPU and it becomes quite difficult to match up the queues and 
the applications.

Since the approach is based on Toeplitz it can be applied to all 
hardware capable of generating a Toeplitz based hash and as a result it 
would likely also work in a much more vendor neutral kind of way than 
Flow Director currently does.

Thanks,

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-03 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-18  1:00 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Simplified 16 bit Toeplitz hash algorithm Alexander Duyck
2010-12-18  1:00 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] net: add simplified 16 bit Toeplitz hash function for transmit side hashing Alexander Duyck
2010-12-18  1:00 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] ixgbe: example of how to update ixgbe to make use of in-kernel Toeplitz hash Alexander Duyck
2010-12-18  1:00 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] igb: example of how to update igb to make use of in-kernel Toeplitz hashing Alexander Duyck
2010-12-18  5:09   ` David Miller
2010-12-18  6:53     ` Alexander Duyck
2010-12-18  6:59       ` David Miller
2011-01-03 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Simplified 16 bit Toeplitz hash algorithm Tom Herbert
2011-01-03 19:00   ` Alexander Duyck
2011-01-03 19:02   ` David Miller
2011-01-03 19:30     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-01-03 19:52       ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2011-01-03 19:54         ` David Miller
2011-01-03 20:15         ` Ben Hutchings
2011-01-03 21:45           ` Alexander Duyck
2011-01-04  3:25           ` Tom Herbert
2011-01-04 15:43             ` Ben Hutchings

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