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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
	Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] net: filter: Just In Time compiler
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:45:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DA71690.2020202@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1302795630.3248.10.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On 04/14/2011 06:40 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 17:40 +0300, Avi Kivity a écrit :
> >  On 04/03/2011 04:56 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> >  >  In order to speedup packet filtering, here is an implementation of a JIT
> >  >  compiler for x86_64
> >  >
> >
> >  Have you considered putting the compiler in userspace?
> >
>
> Hmm, to be honest no.
>
> >  You could have a trusted compile server waiting on a pipe and compiling
> >  programs sent to it by the kernel, sending the results back down.  Use
> >  the interpreter until the compiler returns; if it doesn't, use the
> >  interpreter forever.
>
> I feel it might be too expensive in some cases, and kind of complex
> architecture.

It is, but the kernel-side complexity is lower.  And since we have a 
fallback, overall reliability is improved rather than reduced.

> >
> >  The upside is that you can use established optimizing compilers like
> >  LLVM or GCC, which already support more target architectures.  It may
> >  not matter much for something simple like bpf, but other VMs may be a
> >  lot more complicated.
> >
>
> Not only bpf is very simple, but it needs to access skb fields and other
> parts of the kernel, we would need to instruct userland compiler of all
> these details.

A simple implementation would be to translate the bpf program into a C 
function which receives the same arguments as your bpf runtime, and 
optimize that with gcc.

> We would need to load kind of a module (with dynamic loader)

Well, we have one.

> Of course, making each bpf filter a module of his own has benefit for
> perf profiling.

And stack unwind info, etc.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-14 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-02 22:28 [PATCH v1] net: filter: Just In Time compiler Eric Dumazet
2011-04-02 22:50 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-04-03  5:41   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-02 22:53 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-04-03 13:56   ` [PATCH v2] " Eric Dumazet
2011-04-04  5:07     ` David Miller
2011-04-04  5:21       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 14:40     ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-14 14:55       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-04-14 15:41         ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-14 15:45           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 15:53             ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-14 16:05               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-20  7:41                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-20  8:07                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-20  8:14                     ` David Miller
2011-04-20  8:27                       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-04-20 19:27                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28  6:05                         ` David Miller
2011-04-20  8:12                   ` David Miller
2011-04-14 15:40       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 15:45         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-04-03  5:43 ` [PATCH v1] " David Miller
2011-04-03  9:04   ` Eric Dumazet

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