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From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: sachi-EvXpCiN+lbve9wHmmfpqLFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org,
	davinci-linux-open-source-VycZQUHpC/PFrsHnngEfi1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Subhasish Ghosh
	<subhasish-EvXpCiN+lbve9wHmmfpqLFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	open list <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	CAN NETWORK DRIVERS
	<socketcan-core-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	m-watkins-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver.
Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 22:55:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DC1BD3D.800@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DC17A31.8070409-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>

On 04.05.2011 18:09, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:

> On 05/04/2011 05:57 PM, Kurt Van Dijck wrote:

>> When doing so, I'd vote for an unlimited(by software) list of hardware filters (id/mask).
>> The hardware must abort when no more filters are available.
> 
> Sounds good and not even to complicated. For the SJA1000 we would just
> allow to set the global mask.

Yes. "unlimited(by software)" was a bit misleading at first reading, as we
should not filter IDs by software in the irq handler. But to create a API that
supports as much HW filters as the hardware provides is a good idea.

>> I think that when using hardware filters, knowing the actual device
>> with it's amount of hardware filters is the least of your problems.
>> Userspace applications that suddenly stop working properly due to
>> hw filters (i.e. some traffic not coming in anymore) will be a major
>> source of bugreports.
> 
> Well, hardware filtering will be off by default and must explicitly be
> set by the user, like for the bitrate setting.

To be correct: By the admin.

The setting of CAN HW filters has a system-wide effect to all users on the
local host. The same effect as we have for the setting of the bitrate. This is
the major difference to the user-configurable per-socket CAN-ID filters that
are provided e.g. by the CAN_RAW socket.

As the current netlink configuration interface for CAN interfaces is not
accessible for standard users also this would be the right place to extend the
netlink interface.

Regards,
Oliver

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-04 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1303474267-6344-1-git-send-email-subhasish@mistralsolutions.com>
2011-04-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver Subhasish Ghosh
     [not found]   ` <1303474267-6344-2-git-send-email-subhasish-EvXpCiN+lbve9wHmmfpqLFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-22 15:50     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]       ` <4DB1A3B7.7060300-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-25 20:06         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]           ` <4DB5D452.9050500-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-27 13:08             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:21               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27 13:25               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201104271525.28512.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-04  7:13                   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-04 13:11                     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                       ` <201105041511.54095.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-04 14:33                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                           ` <4DC163D7.9010309-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-04 14:48                             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                               ` <201105041648.37199.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-04 16:00                                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                   ` <4DC17831.3070801-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-10 10:11                                     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 10:27                                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                         ` <20110510112734.54160824-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-10 12:21                                           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-11 21:31                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                               ` <201105112331.47954.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-11 21:44                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                                   ` <201105112344.44171.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-11 22:39                                                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-11 22:56                                                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                                         ` <20110511235652.7ccddb3b-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-12  3:03                                                           ` can: hardware vs. software filter Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12  7:13                                                     ` [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                       ` <4DCB88A4.2010901-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-12 10:58                                                         ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12 12:54                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                                           ` <201105121454.47781.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-12 13:04                                                             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-12 14:41                                                         ` Oliver Hartkopp
     [not found]                                                           ` <4DCBF1B6.6000104-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-22 10:30                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                                               ` <201105221230.56243.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-23  6:21                                                                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
     [not found]                                                                   ` <4DD9FCFC.10803-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-23  8:23                                                                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-27  8:31                                                                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12  7:04                                                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 15:57                             ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-04 16:09                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                               ` <4DC17A31.8070409@grandegger.com>
     [not found]                                 ` <4DC17A31.8070409-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-04 20:55                                   ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2011-04-27 13:28               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                 ` <4DB81A12.1000006-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-27 13:34                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-24 11:13   ` Marc Kleine-Budde

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