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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jiri Pirko" <jpirko@redhat.com>,
	"Nicolas de Pesloüan" <nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>,
	"Changli Gao" <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
	kaber@trash.net, fubar@us.ibm.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	andy@greyhouse.net, "Jesse Gross" <jesse@nicira.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DD97A44.2020708@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ei3qjzix.fsf_-_@fess.ebiederm.org>

On 05/22/2011 12:39 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Simplify the vlan handling code by not supporing clearing of
> VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR.  Which means we always make the vlan handling
> code strip the vlan header from the packets, and always insert the vlan
> header when transmitting packets.
>
> Not stripping the vlan header has alwasy been broken in combination with
> vlan hardware accelleration.  Now that we are making everything look
> like accelerated vlan handling not stripping the vlan header is always
> broken.
>
> I don't think anyone actually cares so simply stop supporting the broken
> case.

I've lost track of the VLAN code a bit.  Is there any documentation
somewhere about what happens in these various cases:

*  Open a raw packet socket on eth0.
   *  Do we get tagged VLAN packets?  (I'd expect yes.)
   *  If we sent a tagged VLAN packet, it's sent without modification?  (I'd expect yes.)
   **  Without "yes" to the two above, one cannot do user-space bridging properly.

*  Open a raw packet socket on VLAN eth0.5
   *  Do we get tagged VLAN packets?  (I'd expect no.)
   *  If we send an un-tagged packet, I expect it would be tagged?
   *  What if we sent a tagged packet with same VID?
   *  With different VID?

Many years ago we supported the REORDER, but we suggested disabling
it for most users because it was a performance drag.  Funny that now
it seems to be the opposite!

Thanks,
Ben


-- 
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-22 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-08  5:48 [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel Jiri Pirko
2011-04-12 21:16 ` David Miller
2011-05-21  1:11   ` Changli Gao
2011-05-21  7:29     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-21 10:43       ` Changli Gao
2011-05-21 13:17         ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-21 17:54           ` Jesse Gross
2011-05-21 22:15             ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-22  2:59             ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  6:29               ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  6:34                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22  8:34                   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  8:52                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22  9:10                       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  9:20                         ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22  9:36                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  9:53                             ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22 10:04                               ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22 16:11                   ` Jesse Gross
2011-05-22 18:24                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:33                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:39                     ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:40                       ` [PATCH 2/3] vlan: Always strip the vlan header in vlan_untag Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:42                         ` [PATCH 3/3] vlan: Simplify the code now that VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR is always set Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-09 10:59                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-12  6:17                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 21:04                       ` Ben Greear [this message]
2011-05-22 22:38                         ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  0:38                           ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  1:26                             ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  1:45                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  2:14                                 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  9:41                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 10:43                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-23 19:48                                       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-24  5:58                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-24  7:19                                           ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-23  1:39                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  6:01                           ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23  9:00                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 16:33                               ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 19:36                                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-23 20:24                                   ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 21:00                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-23 21:20                                       ` David Miller
2011-05-23 22:05                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 22:16                                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-23 22:48                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 22:23                                           ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 23:02                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  4:20                                               ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  7:11                                                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-24  7:44                                                   ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-24 15:17                                                   ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  5:19                                           ` David Miller
2011-05-24  7:56                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24 15:44                                             ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  0:11                                         ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the b0rked ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  4:54                                           ` David Miller
2011-05-24  6:18                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  6:24                                               ` David Miller
2011-05-24  7:38                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02  3:59                                                   ` David Miller
2011-06-02 13:03                                                     ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check v2 Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 13:15                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-02 14:54                                                       ` Changli Gao
2011-06-02 15:26                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 23:18                                                           ` Changli Gao
2011-06-06 14:48                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-03  3:34                                                       ` padmanabh ratnakar
2011-06-03  3:59                                                         ` Changli Gao
2011-06-05 21:14                                                           ` David Miller
2011-06-10  8:35                                                             ` [PATCH v3] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10  9:26                                                               ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10  9:34                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10  9:49                                                                   ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 10:35                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 11:20                                                                       ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 12:12                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 16:56                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-11  0:05                                                                           ` Changli Gao
2011-06-11 23:16                                                                             ` David Miller
2011-06-08 16:28                                                       ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check v2 Jiri Pirko
2011-06-08 23:08                                                         ` Changli Gao
2011-06-09  6:01                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-09 11:00                       ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  8:38                 ` [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel Changli Gao
2011-05-22  9:37                   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22 10:17                     ` Changli Gao
2011-05-22 10:26                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 10:40                         ` Changli Gao
2011-05-22 13:16                       ` Jiri Pirko

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