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From: "Nicolas de Pesloüan" <nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>, Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
	kaber@trash.net, fubar@us.ibm.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	andy@greyhouse.net, Jesse Gross <jesse@nicira.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 21:36:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDAB72B.9050101@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDA8C42.3090009@candelatech.com>

Le 23/05/2011 18:33, Ben Greear a écrit :
> On 05/23/2011 02:00 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Ben Greear<greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
>>
>>> I believe we have been getting tagged VLAN packets properly
>>> in our test cases. We would not be creating any VLAN devices
>>> in this case, so perhaps the NIC isn't doing any stripping.
>>>
>>> To me, it seems like we should get the fully tagged packet
>>> without having to go muck with aux-data, though it would
>>> be fine if it were *also* in aux-data.
>>
>> Given that pf_packet is a portable interface that works on multiple OS's
>> I tend to agree. Certainly my users would be happier if they don't
>> have to change their code and not having to change tcpdump would
>> also be nice.
>>
>> I'm not certain exactly where in the code it makes sense to put the
>> vlan header back on for pf_packet sockets. The simplest thing would
>> be just before we run the socket filter. If we don't do the simplest
>> thing this raises the question how do we avoid breaking socket filters
>> that look at the packet data and know there is going to be a vlan
>> header there.
>
> That is going to be tricky, since the VLAN header would adjust
> offsets and users could be using some filter that uses offsets
> with no actual mention of VLANs (but expecting it to take
> the VLAN header into account).
>
>> Still the current situation is better than seeing vlan 0 tagged packets
>> twice.
>>
>> My gut feel says if we can cheaply get the socket filters to act like it
>> sees the vlan tag (where the vlan tag belongs) we should not actually
>> put the vlan tag back on until we copy the packet to userspace.
>
> Maybe keep a count of how many sockets with filters and/or pf_packet
> sockets are open, and how many things are registered in
> the 'ptype_all' chain, and only re-add (or never remove) the header if that is > 0?
>
> (And, let the bridging and other kernel logic deal with vlans
> via auxillary methods as well as checking in-line headers.)

Well, this doesn't sound very different from my previous proposal: if a protocol handler is 
registered at parent interface level, can't we simply assume this protocol handler expect the raw 
packet?

Also, I think the main problem is that ptype_all and ptype_base deliveries are different in 
__netif_receive_skb, for no good reason (at least, to my knowledge).

In http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/85578/, I proposed to process protocol handlers that are 
registered on a particular interface inside the loop, then process protocol handlers registered to 
NULL upon exit from the loop.

That way, we would have the opportunity to deliver different skb (tagged/untagged) to different 
level of interface, while we cross the interface stack.

I know there is a possible performance penalty in this implementation, but this can be fixed by 
properly ordering the ptype_all/ptype_base list.

	Nicolas.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-23 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-08  5:48 [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel Jiri Pirko
2011-04-12 21:16 ` David Miller
2011-05-21  1:11   ` Changli Gao
2011-05-21  7:29     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-21 10:43       ` Changli Gao
2011-05-21 13:17         ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-21 17:54           ` Jesse Gross
2011-05-21 22:15             ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-22  2:59             ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  6:29               ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  6:34                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22  8:34                   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  8:52                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22  9:10                       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  9:20                         ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22  9:36                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  9:53                             ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22 10:04                               ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22 16:11                   ` Jesse Gross
2011-05-22 18:24                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:33                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:39                     ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:40                       ` [PATCH 2/3] vlan: Always strip the vlan header in vlan_untag Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:42                         ` [PATCH 3/3] vlan: Simplify the code now that VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR is always set Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-09 10:59                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-12  6:17                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 21:04                       ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Ben Greear
2011-05-22 22:38                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  0:38                           ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  1:26                             ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  1:45                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  2:14                                 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  9:41                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 10:43                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-23 19:48                                       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-24  5:58                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-24  7:19                                           ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-23  1:39                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  6:01                           ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23  9:00                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 16:33                               ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 19:36                                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan [this message]
2011-05-23 20:24                                   ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 21:00                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-23 21:20                                       ` David Miller
2011-05-23 22:05                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 22:16                                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-23 22:48                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 22:23                                           ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 23:02                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  4:20                                               ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  7:11                                                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-24  7:44                                                   ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-24 15:17                                                   ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  5:19                                           ` David Miller
2011-05-24  7:56                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24 15:44                                             ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  0:11                                         ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the b0rked ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  4:54                                           ` David Miller
2011-05-24  6:18                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  6:24                                               ` David Miller
2011-05-24  7:38                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02  3:59                                                   ` David Miller
2011-06-02 13:03                                                     ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check v2 Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 13:15                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-02 14:54                                                       ` Changli Gao
2011-06-02 15:26                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 23:18                                                           ` Changli Gao
2011-06-06 14:48                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-03  3:34                                                       ` padmanabh ratnakar
2011-06-03  3:59                                                         ` Changli Gao
2011-06-05 21:14                                                           ` David Miller
2011-06-10  8:35                                                             ` [PATCH v3] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10  9:26                                                               ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10  9:34                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10  9:49                                                                   ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 10:35                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 11:20                                                                       ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 12:12                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 16:56                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-11  0:05                                                                           ` Changli Gao
2011-06-11 23:16                                                                             ` David Miller
2011-06-08 16:28                                                       ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check v2 Jiri Pirko
2011-06-08 23:08                                                         ` Changli Gao
2011-06-09  6:01                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-09 11:00                       ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  8:38                 ` [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel Changli Gao
2011-05-22  9:37                   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22 10:17                     ` Changli Gao
2011-05-22 10:26                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 10:40                         ` Changli Gao
2011-05-22 13:16                       ` Jiri Pirko

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