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From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
To: Robin Holt <holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
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	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock source.
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:14:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E4140DF.6000004@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110809140901.GX4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>

On 08/09/2011 04:09 PM, Robin Holt wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 04:03:38PM +0200, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
>> On 08/09/2011 03:44 PM, U Bhaskar-B22300 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Robin Holt [mailto:holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:06 PM
>>>> To: Wolfgang Grandegger
>>>> Cc: Robin Holt; U Bhaskar-B22300; socketcan-core-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org;
>>>> netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org; Marc Kleine-
>>>> Budde
>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock source.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 03:03:50PM +0200, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
>>>>> On 08/09/2011 02:49 PM, Robin Holt wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 12:41:39PM +0000, U Bhaskar-B22300 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Wolfgang Grandegger [mailto:wg-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:19 PM
>>>>>>>> To: U Bhaskar-B22300
>>>>>>>> Cc: Marc Kleine-Budde; socketcan-core-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org;
>>>>>>>> netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock source.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08/09/2011 11:27 AM, U Bhaskar-B22300 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Wolfgang Grandegger [mailto:wg-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:03 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: U Bhaskar-B22300
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Marc Kleine-Budde; socketcan-core-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org;
>>>>>>>>>> netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock
>>>> source.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bhaskar,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/09/2011 09:57 AM, U Bhaskar-B22300 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marc Kleine-Budde [mailto:mkl-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Wolfgang Grandegger
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: socketcan-core-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org; netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; U
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar- B22300
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock
>>>> source.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/08/2011 05:33 PM, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ACK - The device tree bindings as in mainline's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentation is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> mess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the powerpc guys are happy with a clock interfaces based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach somewhere in arch/ppc, I'm more than happy to
>>>> remove:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - fsl,flexcan-clock-source (not implemented, even in the fsl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver)
>>>>>>>>>>> [Bhaskar]I have pushed the FlexCAN series of patches, It
>>>>>>>>>>> contains the usage of all the fields posted in the FlexCAN
>>>>>>>>>>> bindings at
>>>>>>>>>>> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-3.0.y.gi
>>>>>>>>>>> t;a=b
>>>>>>>>>>> lo
>>>>>>>>>>> b;f=Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/can/fsl-flexcan.txt;h
>>>>>>>>>>> =1a72
>>>>>>>>>>> 9f
>>>>>>>>>>> 089866259ef82d0db5893ff7a8c54d5ccf;hb=94ed5b4788a7cdbe68bc7cb85
>>>>>>>>>>> 16972
>>>>>>>>>>> cb
>>>>>>>>>>> ebdc8274
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As Marc already pointed out, Robin already has a much more
>>>>>>>>>> advanced patch stack in preparation. Especially your patches do
>>>>>>>>>> not care about the already existing Flexcan core on the
>>>> Freescale's ARM socks.
>>>>>>>>> [Bhaskar] No, the patches are taking care of the existing ARM
>>>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>>>>> 	I have not tested on the ARM based board, but the patches are
>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>>       Manner that it should not break the ARM based functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - fsl,flexcan-clock-divider \__ replace with code in
>>>> arch/ppc, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - clock-frequency           /   a single clock-frequency
>>>> attribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the "net-next-2.6" tree there is also:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  $ grep flexcan arch/powerpc/boots/dts/*.dts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   p1010rdb.dts:			fsl,flexcan-clock-source =
>>>>>>>>>> "platform";
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   p1010rdb.dts:			fsl,flexcan-clock-source =
>>>>>>>>>> "platform";
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   p1010si.dtsi:			compatible = "fsl,flexcan-
>>>> v1.0";
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   p1010si.dtsi:			fsl,flexcan-clock-divider =
>>>> <2>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   p1010si.dtsi:			compatible = "fsl,flexcan-
>>>> v1.0";
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   p1010si.dtsi:			fsl,flexcan-clock-divider =
>>>> <2>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially the fsl,flexcan-clock-divider = <2>; might make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people think, that they could set something else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [Bhaskar] As it is mentioned in the Flexcan bindings, the need
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> fsl,flexcan-clock-divider = <2>;
>>>>>>>>>>> 	    But I kept it as "2" because FlexCan clock source is the
>>>>>>>>>> platform clock and it is CCB/2
>>>>>>>>>>> 	    If the "2" is misleading, the bindings can be changed or
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> text can be written to make the meaning of "2"
>>>>>>>>>>>           Understandable , Please suggest ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The clock source and frequency is fixed. Why do we need an extra
>>>>>>>>>> properties for that. We have panned to remove these bogus
>>>>>>>>>> bindings from the Linux kernel, which sneaked in *without* any
>>>>>>>>>> review on the relevant mailing lists (at least I have not
>>>>>>>>>> realized any posting). We do not think they are really needed.
>>>>>>>>>> They just confuse the user. We also prefer to use the
>>>>>>>>>> compatibility string "fsl,flexcan" instead "fsl,flexcan-v1.0".
>>>>>>>>>> It's unusual to add a version number, which is for the Flexcan
>>>>>>>>>> on the PowerPC cores only, I assume, but there will be device
>>>>>>>>>> tree for ARM soon. A proper compatibility string would be
>>>> "fsl,p1010-flexcan" if we really need to distinguish.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [Bhaskar] About clock source.. There can be two sources of clock
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the CAN.
>>>>>>>>> 	Oscillator or the platform clock, but at present only
>>>> platform
>>>>>>>> clock is supported
>>>>>>>>> 	in P1010.If we remove the fsl,flexcan-clock-source property,
>>>> we
>>>>>>>> will lost the flexibility
>>>>>>>>> 	of changing the clock source ..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           About clock-frequency... it is also not fixed. It
>>>>>>>>> depends on
>>>>>>>> the platform clock which in turns
>>>>>>>>>           Depends on the CCB clock. So it will be better to keep
>>>>>>>>> clock-
>>>>>>>> frequency property which is getting fixed via u-boot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The frequency is fixed to CCB-frequency / 2. Will that ever
>>>>>>>> change? What can we expect from future Flexcan hardware? Will it
>>>>>>>> support further clock sources?
>>>>>>> [Bhaskar] Yes the frequency will always be CCB-frequency/2.Even if
>>>> the CCB gets changed that will be taken care by the u-boot fixup code for
>>>>>>> 	clock-frequency. clock-frequency is not filled by somebody in the
>>>> dts file. It will be done by u-boot.
>>>>>>> 	For clock source,I can't say right now, that's why I have kept a
>>>> property for this in the can node. So that in future, we need to fill it
>>>>>>> 	appropriately
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of the dts file, I have left the p1010si.dtsi file with the
>>>>>> fsl,flexcan-v1.0 .compatible definition.  The flexcan folks (IIRC
>>>>>> Wolfgang) objected to that as it does not follow the standard which
>>>>>> should be just fsl,flexcan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How would you like to change that?  Should I add it as part of this
>>>>>> patch, add another patch to the series, or let you take care of it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I assume the uboot project will need to be changed as well to
>>>>>> reflect the corrected name.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you should provide patches within this series to cleanup the
>>>>> obsolete stuff, dts and binding doc.
>>>>
>>>> It reads to me that the binding doc now reduces just the required
>>>> properties.  Should I remove the file entirely?
>>> [Bhaskar] I think the binding doc should atleast be present with the required properties to give the clarity
>>>  	    about the CAN functionality
>>> 		can0@1c000 {
>>>                  compatible = "fsl,flexcan";
>>>                  reg = <0x1c000 0x1000>;
>>>                  interrupts = <48 0x2>;
>>>                  interrupt-parent = <&mpic>;
>>>                  clock-frequency = <fixed by u-boot>;
>>>          	}; 
>>
>> Yes, I also find the introduction is quite useful, with some related
>> correction.
> 
> I am not sure what is useful.  The clock source bits are all wrong.
> When that is removed, you end up with a discussion about the prescaler
> which is actually related to the flexcan.c file and has nothing
> to do with the device node.  Maybe I am just going back into my
> not-communicating-well mode.  Could you follow up with what you think
> belongs in the introduction of the binding file?

Yep, you are right. Keep it simple...

Wolfgang,

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-09 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-06 14:34 [RFC 0/4] [flexcan] Add support for powerpc (freescale p1010) -V6 Robin Holt
2011-08-06 14:34 ` [RFC 2/5] [flexcan] Abstract off read/write for big/little endian Robin Holt
2011-08-06 14:34 ` [RFC 3/5] [flexcan] Add of_match to platform_device definition Robin Holt
     [not found] ` <1312641270-6018-1-git-send-email-holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-06 14:34   ` [RFC 1/5] [flexcan] Replace mach/clock.h with linux/clkdev.h Robin Holt
2011-08-06 14:34   ` [RFC 4/5] [flexcan] Add support for FLEXCAN_DEBUG Robin Holt
2011-08-06 14:34   ` [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock source Robin Holt
     [not found]     ` <1312641270-6018-6-git-send-email-holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08  8:37       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]         ` <4E3FA066.3020301-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08  9:15           ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 11:31           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]             ` <20110808113136.GS4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 12:07               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                 ` <4E3FD184.1070706-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 12:48                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                     ` <20110808124842.GT4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 13:00                       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                         ` <4E3FDDD6.1020802-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 13:16                           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 13:08               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                 ` <4E3FDFC9.7080508-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 13:44                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                     ` <4E3FE844.6090005-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:03                       ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                         ` <20110808140340.GV4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:19                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                             ` <4E3FF068.6070905-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:29                               ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 14:19                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 13:56                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                     ` <20110808135630.GU4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:16                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                         ` <4E3FEFBB.9050103-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:21                           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                             ` <20110808142153.GW4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:37                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                 ` <4E3FF4B8.2010603-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:44                                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                     ` <20110808144424.GY4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:59                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                         ` <4E3FF9EA.6030601-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:09                                           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                             ` <20110808150925.GA4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:18                                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                 ` <4E3FFE61.4090109-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:22                                                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                     ` <4E3FFF41.7030401-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:38                                                       ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                         ` <20110808153835.GC4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:50                                                           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 15:23                                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-08-08 15:25                                                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                     ` <20110808152549.GB4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:27                                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 15:14                                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                                             ` <4E3FFD5B.7080000-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:33                                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                 ` <4E4001E1.3030508-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:55                                                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                     ` <20110808155540.GD4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:59                                                       ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 16:03                                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                         ` <4E4008BA.6030303-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 16:08                                                           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                             ` <20110808160810.GF4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 18:37                                                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                                 ` <4E402CF1.1040300-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 19:14                                                                   ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 20:27                                                                     ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 18:53                                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-08-09  7:57                                                     ` U Bhaskar-B22300
     [not found]                                                       ` <9C64B7751C3BCA41B64A68E23005A7BE1B9D6C-TcFNo7jSaXPiTqIcKZ1S2K4g8xLGJsHaLnY5E4hWTkheoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09  8:13                                                         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-08-09  9:34                                                           ` U Bhaskar-B22300
     [not found]                                                             ` <9C64B7751C3BCA41B64A68E23005A7BE1BEFCE-TcFNo7jSaXM0vywKSws3iq4g8xLGJsHaLnY5E4hWTkheoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 10:41                                                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09  8:32                                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09  9:27                                                           ` U Bhaskar-B22300
2011-08-09 10:48                                                             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                               ` <4E41108F.1090104-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 12:41                                                                 ` U Bhaskar-B22300
     [not found]                                                                   ` <9C64B7751C3BCA41B64A68E23005A7BE1C3552-TcFNo7jSaXPiTqIcKZ1S2K4g8xLGJsHaLnY5E4hWTkheoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 12:49                                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20110809124919.GS4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 13:03                                                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09 13:17                                                                           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                                           ` <4E413036.5080207-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 13:35                                                                             ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20110809133531.GV4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 13:44                                                                                 ` U Bhaskar-B22300
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <9C64B7751C3BCA41B64A68E23005A7BE1C4746-TcFNo7jSaXPiTqIcKZ1S2K4g8xLGJsHaLnY5E4hWTkheoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 13:50                                                                                     ` Robin Holt
2011-08-09 14:03                                                                                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09 14:09                                                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <20110809140901.GX4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 14:14                                                                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
2011-08-09 12:50                                                                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                                                                       ` <4E412D26.9020608-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 12:54                                                                         ` U Bhaskar-B22300
2011-08-09 13:19                                                                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 14:48                                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                     ` <20110808144808.GZ4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:16                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 13:05             ` Marc Kleine-Budde

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