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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Daniel Baluta <dbaluta@ixiacom.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, jmorris@namei.org,
	yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, kaber@trash.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	luto@amacapital.net
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] tcp: Export TCP Delayed ACK parameters to user
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:29:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EAF133A.2080505@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEnQRZAGc42q1LCEDs=QigLkXeHBui=KnAm5=5xrEzvA-LDcGg@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/31/2011 01:02 PM, Daniel Baluta wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Rick Jones<rick.jones2@hp.com>  wrote:
>> Whether tracked as bytes or segments, my take is that to ask applications to
>> have to think about another non-portable socket option is ungood.  I would
>> suggest taking the time to work-out the automagic heuristic to drop the
>> deferred ACK count on connections where it being large is un-desirable and
>> then not need to worry about the limits being global.
>
> Your suggestion deserves further investigation, it looks tricky to
> find a good heuristic for increasing/decreasing the ACK deferred count.

Well, presumably you can observe the behaviour of some HP-UX and/or 
Solaris receivers to get some ideas.

>> If I recall correctly, in one of your earlier posts you mentioned something
>> about a 20% performance boost.  What were the specific conditions of that
>> testing?  Was it over a setup where the receiver already had LRO/GRO or was
>> it over a more plain receiver NIC without that functionality?
>
> If I remember correctly on the receiver side there was no LRO/GRO, but we
> tweaked some of /proc/sys/net/ipv4 parameters (e.g tcp_rmem).
> Also, the traffic was highly unidirectional with many clients feeding multimedia
> content to a server.
>
> Anyhow, we used our custom kernel which is an older kernel version.
> Are there any recommended benchmarks/tools for testing this kind of parameters?

Well, the last time I was tilting after the ACK avoidance windmill I 
used my favorite tool, netperf.  I believe I posted some HP-UX data 
showing the effect of different values of tcp_deferred_ack_max.  Both on 
throughput, and on CPU utilization/service demand.  Of course, I have 
something of a bias in that regard :)

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-31 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-27 23:07 [RFC] tcp: Export TCP Delayed ACK parameters to user Daniel Baluta
2011-10-28  0:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-28  8:01   ` Daniel Baluta
2011-10-28  8:44     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-28 16:38       ` Rick Jones
2011-10-28 21:14 ` [RFC v2] " Daniel Baluta
2011-10-28 21:19   ` David Miller
2011-10-28 21:35     ` Daniel Baluta
2011-10-28 22:31       ` David Miller
2011-10-28 22:40         ` Rick Jones
2011-10-29  2:24           ` David Miller
2011-10-29 12:32             ` Daniel Baluta
2011-10-30  4:13               ` David Miller
2011-10-31 18:10               ` Rick Jones
2011-10-31 20:02                 ` Daniel Baluta
2011-10-31 21:29                   ` Rick Jones [this message]
2011-10-28 21:53   ` Andy Lutomirski

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