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From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	<netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	<cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
	David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
	<devel-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] change number_of_cpusets to an atomic
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:30:05 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F96D50D.4020804@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1204241120130.26005-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>

On 04/24/2012 01:24 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
>
>>> Would this not also be a good case to introduce static branching?
>>>
>>> number_of_cpusets is used to avoid going through unnecessary processing
>>> should there be no cpusets in use.
>>
>> static branches comes with a set of problems themselves, so I usually prefer
>> to use them only in places where we don't want to pay even a cache miss if we
>> can avoid, or a function call, or anything like that - like the slub cache
>> alloc as you may have seen in my kmem memcg series.
>>
>> It doesn't seem to be the case here.
>
> How did you figure that? number_of_cpusets was introduced exactly because
> the functions are used in places where we do not pay the cost of calling
> __cpuset_node_allowed_soft/hardwall. Have a look at these. They may take
> locks etc etc in critical allocation paths
I am not arguing that.

You want to avoid the cost of processing a function, that's fair.
(Note that by "function call cost" I don't mean the cost of processing a 
function, but the cost of a (potentially empty) function call.)
The real question is: Are you okay with the cost of a branch + a global 
variable (which is almost read only) fetch?

The test of a global variable can - and do as of right now - avoid all 
the expensive operations like locking, sleeping, etc, and if you don't 
need to squeeze every nanosecond you can, they are often simpler - and 
therefore better - than static branching.

Just to mention one point I am coming across these days - that initiated 
all this: static patching holds the cpu_hotplug.lock. So it can't be 
called if you hold any lock that has been already held under the 
cpu_hotplug.lock. This will probably mean any lock the cpuset cgroup 
needs to take, because it is called - and to do a lot of things - from 
the cpu hotplug handler, that holds the cpu_hotplug.lock.

So if if were a case of simple static branch usage, I am not opposed to 
it. But I foresee it getting so complicated, that a global variable 
seems to do the job we need just fine.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-24 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-23 19:37 [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix problem with static_key decrement Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1335209867-1831-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 19:37   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] don't attach a task to a dead cgroup Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1335209867-1831-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24  2:20       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-23 19:37   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] blkcg: protect blkcg->policy_list Glauber Costa
2012-04-23 19:37   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] change number_of_cpusets to an atomic Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1335209867-1831-4-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24  2:25       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-24 15:02     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1204241001050.26005-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 16:15         ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <4F96D1A8.6040604-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 16:24             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]               ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1204241120130.26005-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 16:30                 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <4F96D50D.4020804-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 18:27                     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-04-23 19:37   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] don't take cgroup_mutex in destroy() Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1335209867-1831-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24  2:31       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <4F96109A.8000907-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 11:42           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <4F9691A8.1070106-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  8:01               ` Li Zefan
2012-04-23 19:37   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] decrement static keys on real destroy time Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1335209867-1831-6-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24  2:40       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <4F9612B9.7050705-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 11:41           ` Glauber Costa
2012-04-25  0:22             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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