From: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
sdf@fomichev.me, kernel-team@cloudflare.com,
arthur@arthurfabre.com, jakub@cloudflare.com,
Jesse Brandeburg <jbrandeburg@cloudflare.com>,
Andrew Rzeznik <arzeznik@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next V2 0/7] xdp: Allow BPF to set RX hints for XDP_REDIRECTed packets
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 12:47:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4eaf6d02-6b4e-4713-a8f8-6b00a031d255@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b23ed0e2-05cf-454b-bf7a-a637c9bb48e8@kernel.org>
On 7/29/25 4:15 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> That idea has been considered before, but it unfortunately doesn't work
> from a performance angle. The performance model of XDP_REDIRECT into
> CPUMAP relies on moving the expensive SKB allocation+init to a remote
> CPU. This keeps the ingress CPU free to process packets at near line
> rate (our DDoS use-case). If we allocate the SKB on the ingress-CPU
> before the redirect, we destroy this load-balancing model and create the
> exact bottleneck we designed CPUMAP to avoid.
iirc, a xdp prog can be attached to a cpumap. The skb can be created by that xdp
prog running on the remote cpu. It should be like a xdp prog returning a
XDP_PASS + an optional skb. The xdp prog can set some fields in the skb. Other
than setting fields in the skb, something else may be also possible in the
future, e.g. look up sk, earlier demux ...etc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-29 19:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-02 14:58 [PATCH bpf-next V2 0/7] xdp: Allow BPF to set RX hints for XDP_REDIRECTed packets Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-02 14:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next V2 1/7] net: xdp: Add xdp_rx_meta structure Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-17 9:19 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-17 14:40 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-18 10:33 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-02 14:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next V2 2/7] selftests/bpf: Adjust test for maximum packet size in xdp_do_redirect Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-02 14:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next V2 3/7] net: xdp: Add kfuncs to store hw metadata in xdp_buff Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-03 11:41 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-03 12:26 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2025-07-02 14:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next V2 4/7] net: xdp: Set skb hw metadata from xdp_frame Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-02 14:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next V2 5/7] net: veth: Read xdp metadata from rx_meta struct if available Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-17 12:11 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-02 14:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next V2 6/7] bpf: selftests: Add rx_meta store kfuncs selftest Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-23 9:24 ` Bouska, Zdenek
2025-07-02 14:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next V2 7/7] net: xdp: update documentation for xdp-rx-metadata.rst Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-02 16:05 ` [PATCH bpf-next V2 0/7] xdp: Allow BPF to set RX hints for XDP_REDIRECTed packets Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-03 11:17 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-07 14:40 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-09 9:31 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2025-07-11 16:04 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-16 11:17 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2025-07-16 21:20 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-17 13:08 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-18 1:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-18 10:56 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-22 1:13 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-28 10:53 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2025-07-28 16:29 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-29 11:15 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-07-29 19:47 ` Martin KaFai Lau [this message]
2025-07-31 16:27 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-08-01 20:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-04 13:18 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-08-06 0:28 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-07 18:26 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-08-06 1:24 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-07 19:07 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-08-13 2:59 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-07-31 21:18 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2025-08-01 20:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-05 13:18 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2025-08-05 23:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-18 9:55 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
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