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From: Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
To: Yuval Mintz <yuvalmin@broadcom.com>
Cc: "davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>,
	Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
	Greg Rose <gregory.v.rose@intel.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New commands to configure IOV features
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:29:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5005BD00.4090106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5003DC9B.8000706@broadcom.com>

On 07/16/2012 05:19 AM, Yuval Mintz wrote:
>
>>>>> If I want to pick the RFCs and add support for configuring the number
>>>>> of VFs - do you think ethtool's the right place for such added
>>>>> support?
>>>>>
>>>> I think a PCI utility tool would be better, SR-IOV is not limited to
>>>> network devices.  That's one of the reasons I dropped the RFC.  I
>>>> haven't gotten back to the idea since then due to my day job keeping me
>>>> pretty busy.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, I agree with this.
>>
>>  From my perspective it would be ideal if this could be exported via /sys or something
>>
>
>
> Well, obviously unless there was a sudden change in our stance regarding
> sysfs we will not head that way.
>
> This thread got no replies from the pci community, and I'm unfamiliar
> with such a tool.
>
> Dave, What's your stance in the matter - do you wish us to continue pursuing
> some pci tool (which might or might not exist), or instead work on
> a networking solution to this issue?
>
> Do you happen to know such a tool?
>
> Thanks,
> Yuval
>
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Yuval (et. al.),

Not seeing the original thread on netdev,
I just had a recent discussion w/Greg Rose about providing
sysfs-based, VF enable/disable methods.
I was told that historically, VF enablement started as a sysfs-based
function, was debated and pushed toward a device/driver-specific method,
as it is implemented today.   Now, with some experience with SRIOV and
its use in the virtualization space, the discussion has renewed as to whether
a sysfs-based enable/disable method should be resurrected, so it
provides a more generic method for virtualization tools/api's to
manage SRIOV/VF devices.

I was hoping to discuss this topic with a number of folks at
LinuxCon/Plumbers/KS when the PCI mini-summit is held, to gain
further insight, or be brought up to speed on past history,
and review current uses/status of VFs.

WRT SRIOV-nic devices, the thinking goes that protocol-level
parameters associated with VFs should use protocol-specific interfaces,
e.g., ethtool, ip link set, etc. for Ethernet VFs.
Thus, the various protocol control functions/tools should
be used to control VF parameters, as one would for a physical device
of that protocol/class.

- Don

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-17 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-07 11:17 New commands to configure IOV features Yuval Mintz
2012-05-07 15:16 ` Greg Rose
2012-06-26 12:21   ` Yuval Mintz
2012-06-26 16:13     ` Alexander Duyck
2012-06-26 17:19     ` Greg Rose
2012-07-01 11:09       ` Yuval Mintz
2012-07-09 18:39       ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-09 21:13         ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-16  9:19           ` Yuval Mintz
2012-07-17 19:29             ` Don Dutile [this message]
2012-07-17 21:08               ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-17 21:11                 ` David Miller
2012-07-20 15:27                   ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-20 15:56                     ` Don Dutile
2012-07-20 17:42                       ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-20 19:29                         ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-20 20:01                           ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-20 20:15                             ` Don Dutile
2012-07-20 23:42                             ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-21  0:52                               ` Rose, Gregory V
2012-07-23 14:03                               ` Don Dutile
2012-07-23 15:09                                 ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-23 17:06                                   ` Rose, Gregory V
2012-07-23 18:36                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-07-23 18:40                                     ` Rose, Gregory V
2012-09-19 11:07                                       ` Yuval Mintz
2012-09-19 15:53                                         ` Greg Rose
2012-09-19 19:44                                           ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-19 22:17                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-19 22:46                                               ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-20  0:19                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-20  1:23                                                   ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-20  2:27                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-20  3:08                                                       ` Subhendu Ghosh
2012-09-20 15:39                                                     ` Rose, Gregory V
2012-09-21  5:50                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-21 17:35                                                         ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-21 19:23                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-21 18:06                                                         ` Don Dutile
2012-09-21 19:49                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-21 20:08                                                             ` Don Dutile
2012-09-23 15:49                                                               ` Yuval Mintz
2012-09-24 17:37                                                                 ` Don Dutile
2012-09-30  6:39                                                               ` Yuval Mintz
2012-10-01 14:12                                                                 ` Don Dutile
2012-09-19 17:49                                         ` David Miller
2012-07-23 16:37                                 ` Rose, Gregory V

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