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From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	David.Laight@ACULAB.COM, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/7] Allow to monitor multicast cache event via rtnetlink
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:49:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50C112F7.1010000@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121206174905.GC16122@casper.infradead.org>

Le 06/12/2012 18:49, Thomas Graf a écrit :
> On 12/06/12 at 09:43am, Nicolas Dichtel wrote:
>> Le 05/12/2012 18:54, David Miller a écrit :
>>> From: "David Laight" <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
>>> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 11:41:33 -0000
>>>
>>>> Probably worth commenting that the 64bit items might only be 32bit aligned.
>>>> Just to stop anyone trying to read/write them with pointer casts.
>>>
>>> Rather, let's not create this situation at all.
>>>
>>> It's totally inappropriate to have special code to handle every single
>>> time we want to put 64-bit values into netlink messages.
>>>
>>> We need a real solution to this issue.
>>>
>> The easiest way is to update *_ALIGNTO values (maybe we can keep
>> NLMSG_ALIGNTO to 4). But I think that many userland apps have these
>> values hardcoded and, the most important thing, this may increase
>> size of many netlink messages. Hence we need probably to find
>> something better.
>
> We can't do this, as you say, ALIGNTO is compiled into all the
> binaries.
>
> A simple backwards compatible workaround would be to include an
> unknown, empty padding attribute if needed. That would be 4 bytes
> in size and could be used to include padding as needed.
>
> We could use nla_type = 0 as it is a reserved value that should
> be available in all protocols. All readers (kernel and user space)
> must ignore such an attribute just like any other unknown
> attribute they encounter.
>
> We could easily extend nla_put_u64() and variants to automatically
> include such a padding attribute as needed.
>
> The only situation that I can think of where this would not work
> is if we have code like this:
>
>     foo = nla_nest_start();
>     for ([..])
>        nla_put_u64([...])
>     nla_nest_end([...])
>
> and a reader would stupidly do a nla_for_each_attr() in user space
> and assume all attributes found must be NLA_U64 without even
> checking the length of the attribute.
>
> I would say we take that risk and let such code die horribly.
>
Ok, I can work to a patch next week if you want (I will be off until Tuesday).

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-06 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-04 11:13 [PATCH net-next 0/7] Allow to monitor multicast cache event via rtnetlink Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-04 11:13 ` [PATCH net-next 1/7] netconf: advertise mc_forwarding status Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-04 11:13 ` [PATCH net-next 2/7] ip6mr: use nla_nest_* helpers Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-04 11:13 ` [PATCH net-next 3/7] ipmr/ip6mr: advertise mfc stats via rtnetlink Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-04 11:13 ` [PATCH net-next 4/7] ipmr/ip6mr: report origin of mfc entry into rtnl msg Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-04 11:13 ` [PATCH net-next 5/7] ipmr/ip6mr: allow to get unresolved cache via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-04 11:13 ` [PATCH net-next 6/7] ipmr: advertise new mfc entries via rtnl Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-04 11:13 ` [PATCH net-next 7/7] ip6mr: " Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-04 18:09 ` [PATCH net-next 0/7] Allow to monitor multicast cache event via rtnetlink David Miller
2012-12-04 20:02   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-05 11:02     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-05 11:41       ` David Laight
2012-12-05 17:54         ` David Miller
2012-12-06  8:43           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-06 17:49             ` Thomas Graf
2012-12-06 21:49               ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
2012-12-07 10:38               ` David Laight
2012-12-07 10:58                 ` Thomas Graf
2012-12-11 15:03               ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-11 18:40                 ` Thomas Graf
2012-12-12 17:30                   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-14 13:16                   ` [PATCH] netlink: align attributes on 64-bits Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-14 15:49                     ` Ben Hutchings
2012-12-14 16:04                       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-17 16:49                       ` [PATCH v2] " Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-17 17:06                         ` David Laight
2012-12-17 17:35                           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-18  9:19                             ` David Laight
2012-12-18 10:18                               ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-18 12:57                         ` Thomas Graf
2012-12-18 16:23                           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-18 16:50                             ` David Laight
2012-12-18 17:11                               ` Thomas Graf
2012-12-19  9:17                                 ` David Laight
2012-12-19 17:20                                   ` Thomas Graf
2012-12-20  9:37                                     ` David Laight
2012-12-20  9:40                                     ` David Laight
2012-12-18 17:08                             ` Thomas Graf
2012-12-18 22:07                               ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-19 11:22                           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-19 17:09                             ` Thomas Graf
2012-12-19 18:07                               ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-17  9:59                     ` [PATCH] " David Laight
2012-12-17 16:53                       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2012-12-05 17:53       ` [PATCH net-next 0/7] Allow to monitor multicast cache event via rtnetlink David Miller

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