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From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
To: Florian Fainelli <florian@openwrt.org>
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	shawn.guo@linaro.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: fec: Add support for multiple phys on mdiobus
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:03:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50FEAA28.1070003@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50FEA691.4050904@openwrt.org>

On 01/22/2013 03:47 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 01/22/2013 08:22 AM, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
>>> Well this could be done when the fixed phy driver could be registered
>>> with the devicetree, maybe like this:
>>>
>>>     fixed-phy: mdiophy {
>>>         compatible = "mdio-fixed-phy";
>>>         link = "100FD";
>>>     };
>>
>> I find that confusing. There is *no* phy but just a fixed link to the
>> switch...
>>
>>> The good thing about this would be that every ethernet driver could just
>>> use such a fixed phy, any external mdio phy (like on Marvell Armada) or
>>> just a phy connected to the internal mdio interface provided by the
>>> ethernet
>>> core.
>>
>> What is wrong with the existing "fixed-link" property of the *ethernet*
>> node. The fixed-link handling should/could be done in the phy layer, and
>> not in the driver as it currently is implemented. Maybe that's the
>> reason why the current code is regarded as hack!
> 
> As far as I have used it with the CPMAC driver, the fixed PHY is a
> specific PHY device and there is no specific handling to be done by the
> Ethernet MAC driver but eventually changing its MII bus id so that it is
> named "fixed-0" to allow the fixed PHY driver to bind. Put differently,

There is special handling for the fixed link, e.g. here:

http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v3.7.4/drivers/net/ethernet/freescale/gianfar.c#L1462

This could be hidden in the PHY layer allowing all ethernet drivers
using the "fixed-link" property.

> using the fixed PHY driver is a kind of "last" resort thing to cope with
> situations like:
> 
> - switch not providing a consistent PHY-like interface on the MDC/MDIO bus
> - switches not connected to the MDC/MDIO bus of the Ethernet MAC they
> forward to
> 
> What exactly do you mean by "as it currently is implemented"? that you
> do not like?

As Sascha pointed out, the implementation is labeled as "hack", which
should be fixed sooner than later. It's just not clear why ;).

Wolfgang.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-22 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-21  8:37 [PATCH] net: fec: Add support for multiple phys on mdiobus Sascha Hauer
2013-01-21  8:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] net: fec: refactor dt probing Sascha Hauer
2013-01-21 17:48   ` Baruch Siach
2013-01-21 18:27     ` Sascha Hauer
2013-01-21  8:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: fec: Add support for phys from devicetree Sascha Hauer
2013-01-21  8:56 ` [PATCH] net: fec: Add support for multiple phys on mdiobus Wolfgang Grandegger
2013-01-21 10:07   ` Sascha Hauer
2013-01-21 11:07     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2013-01-21 11:12       ` Florian Fainelli
2013-01-21 11:33         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2013-01-21 11:56         ` Sascha Hauer
2013-01-21 12:06       ` Sascha Hauer
2013-01-22  7:22         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2013-01-22 14:47           ` Florian Fainelli
2013-01-22 15:03             ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
2013-01-22 15:19               ` Florian Fainelli
2013-01-22 15:26                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger

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