From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Wei Fang <wei.fang@nxp.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 02/14] dt-bindings: net: add nxp,netc-timer property
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 09:50:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50cdc52b-b0e6-4448-a35d-b033671bb623@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250718-enchanted-cornflower-llama-f7baea@kuoka>
On 18/07/2025 09:46, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 10:26:28AM +0000, Wei Fang wrote:
>>>> timestamper: provides control node reference and
>>>> the port channel within the IP core
>>>>
>>>> The "timestamper" property lives in a phy node and links a time
>>>> stamping channel from the controller device to that phy's MII bus.
>>>>
>>>> But for NETC, we only need the node parameter, and this property is
>>>> added to the MAC node.
>>>
>>> I think we do not understand each other. I ask if this is the
>>> timestamper and you explain about arguments of the phandle. The
>>> arguments are not relevant.
>>>
>>> What is this purpose/role/function of the timer device?
>>
>> The timer device provides PHC with nanosecond resolution, so the
>> ptp_netc driver provides interfaces to adjust the PHC, and this PHC
>> is used by the ENETC device, so that the ENECT can capture the
>> timestamp of the packets.
>>
>>>
>>> What is the purpose of this new property in the binding here?
>>>
>>
>> This property is to allow the ENETC to find the timer device that is
>> physically bound to it. so that ENETC can perform PTP synchronization
>> with other network devices.
>
>
> Looks exactly how existing timestamper property is described.
>
> If this is not timestamper then probably someone with better domain
> knowledge should explain it clearly, so I will understand why it is not
> timestamper and what is the timestamper property. Then you should think
> if you need new generic binding for it, IOW, whether this is typical
> problem you solve here or not, and add such binding if needed.
>
> Maybe there is another property describing a time provider in the
> kernel or dtschema. Please look for it. This all looks like you are
> implementing typical use case in non-typical, but vendor-like, way.
BTW, I am also very disappointed that we had exactly that talk in v1,
for 10 or 20 emails (!!!) and then you send the same.
I feel like you do not want to actually solve this problem, but just
push whatever you have. Otherwise why unresolved comments in v1 would
result in the same code in v2 leading to the same lengthy discussion?
If you send the same v3, I will just NAK it without even discussing,
because 20 emails in v1 and 20 emails in v2 is way too much wasting my time.
Best regards,
Krzysztof
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-18 7:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-16 7:30 [PATCH v2 net-next 00/14] Add NETC Timer PTP driver and add PTP support for i.MX95 Wei Fang
2025-07-16 7:30 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 01/14] dt-bindings: ptp: add NETC Timer PTP clock Wei Fang
2025-07-16 19:19 ` Frank Li
2025-07-17 7:40 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-17 8:30 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-17 9:05 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-07-17 9:55 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-17 12:42 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-07-17 15:06 ` Frank Li
2025-07-22 14:36 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-07-22 18:25 ` Frank Li
2025-07-17 10:04 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-17 10:28 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-16 7:30 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 02/14] dt-bindings: net: add nxp,netc-timer property Wei Fang
2025-07-16 19:28 ` Frank Li
2025-07-17 3:23 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-17 7:42 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-17 8:32 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-17 9:12 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-17 9:49 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-17 10:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-17 10:26 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-18 7:46 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-18 7:50 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2025-07-18 12:01 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-07-21 6:00 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-21 12:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 03/14] ptp: netc: add NETC Timer PTP driver support Wei Fang
2025-07-16 19:58 ` Frank Li
2025-07-17 8:42 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-23 16:09 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-07-24 2:36 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 04/14] ptp: netc: add PTP_CLK_REQ_PPS support Wei Fang
2025-07-16 20:05 ` Frank Li
2025-07-17 11:59 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-17 15:15 ` Frank Li
2025-07-18 2:08 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 05/14] ptp: netc: add periodic pulse output support Wei Fang
2025-07-16 20:26 ` Frank Li
2025-07-17 12:11 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 06/14] ptp: netc: add external trigger stamp support Wei Fang
2025-07-16 20:30 ` Frank Li
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 07/14] ptp: netc: add debugfs support to loop back pulse signal Wei Fang
2025-07-16 20:32 ` Frank Li
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 08/14] MAINTAINERS: add NETC Timer PTP clock driver section Wei Fang
2025-07-16 20:33 ` Frank Li
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 09/14] net: enetc: save the parsed information of PTP packet to skb->cb Wei Fang
2025-07-16 20:46 ` Frank Li
2025-07-17 12:20 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 10/14] net: enetc: Add enetc_update_ptp_sync_msg() to process PTP sync packet Wei Fang
2025-07-16 20:49 ` Frank Li
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 11/14] net: enetc: remove unnecessary CONFIG_FSL_ENETC_PTP_CLOCK check Wei Fang
2025-07-16 20:50 ` Frank Li
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 12/14] net: enetc: add PTP synchronization support for ENETC v4 Wei Fang
2025-07-16 21:01 ` Frank Li
2025-07-17 12:35 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-17 22:07 ` Frank Li
2025-07-18 2:08 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-22 12:57 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-07-22 13:41 ` Wei Fang
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 13/14] net: enetc: don't update sync packet checksum if checksum offload is used Wei Fang
2025-07-16 21:03 ` Frank Li
2025-07-16 7:31 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] arm64: dts: imx95: Add NETC Timer support Wei Fang
2025-07-16 21:04 ` Frank Li
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