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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stephen@networkplumber.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] tuntap: limit the number of flow caches
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:22:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5100A90C.2030406@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130123.135024.1407137924304146015.davem@davemloft.net>

On 01/24/2013 02:50 AM, David Miller wrote:
> From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:59:13 +0800
>
>> We create new flow caches when a new flow is identified by tuntap, This may lead
>> some issues:
>>
>> - userspace may produce a huge amount of short live flows to exhaust host memory
>> - the unlimited number of flow caches may produce a long list which increase the
>>   time in the linear searching
>>
>> Solve this by introducing a limit of total number of flow caches.
>>
>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>> ---
> Applied, but really flow caches are an extremely broken concept especially
> when external entities control the population of such caches.
>
> We removed the routing cache of the ipv4 networking code exactly because
> this kind of crap does not work at all.
>
> Next you're going to have to add a delicately managed garbage
> collection scheme for this tuntap flow cache, and that will be tuned
> endlessly, when the real issue is that fundamentally this does not
> work.
>
> Instead, make the full lookup scale properly and use appropriate data
> structures.  It won't be as fast as a simple hash table demux, but
> it'll actually be immune to growth issues and DoS attacks and give
> consistent and repeatable lookup performance regardless of traffic
> patterns.

Ok, I will rework it in 3.9.

Thanks
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-24  3:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-23 13:59 [PATCH 1/2] tuntap: reduce memory using of queues Jason Wang
2013-01-23 13:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] tuntap: limit the number of flow caches Jason Wang
2013-01-23 18:50   ` David Miller
2013-01-24  3:22     ` Jason Wang [this message]
2013-01-23 15:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] tuntap: reduce memory using of queues Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-23 18:47 ` David Miller

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