From: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
To: balbi@ti.com
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Generic PHY Framework
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:07:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5123A32D.4030005@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130219150500.GG4390@arwen.pp.htv.fi>
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On 02/19/2013 04:05 PM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 02:34:40PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Tuesday 19 February 2013, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:33:54PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>>>> Currently drivers/phy and drivers/net/phy are independent and are not
>>>>> related to each other. There are some fundamental differences on how
>>>>> these frameworks work. IIUC, the *net* uses bus layer (MDIO bus) to
>>>>> match a PHY device with a PHY driver and the Ethernet device uses the
>>>>> bus layer to get the PHY.
>>>>> The Generic PHY Framework however doesn't have any bus layer. The PHY
>>>>> should be like any other Platform Devices and Drivers and the framework
>>>>> will provide some APIs to register with the framework. And there are
>>>>> other APIs which any controller can use to get the PHY (for e.g., in the
>>>>> case of dt boot, it can use phandle to get a reference to the PHY).
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, I think the use of a bus_type for a PHY actually sounds quite
>>>> appropriate. The actual PHY device would then be a child of the
>>>
>>> really ? I'm not so sure, the *bus* used by the PHY is ULPI, UTMI,
>>> UTMI+, PIP3, I2C, etc... adding another 'fake' bus representation is a
>>> bit overkill IMO.
>>>
>>> Imagine an I2C-controlled PHY driver like isp1301, that driver will have
>>> to register i2c_driver and phy_driver, which looks weird to me. If the
>>> only substitute for class is a bus, we can't drop classes just yet, I'm
>>> afraid.
>>>
>>> Imagine a regulator bus, a pwm bus, an LED bus etc. They don't make
>>> sense IMHO.
>>
>> It's a fine line, but I think a phy is something that resembles a device
>> more than an LED does. When I read patch 1, I also noticed and commented
>> on the fact that it does use a 'class'. Now, according to Greg, we should
>> use 'bus_type' instead of 'class' in new code. I originally disagreed with
>> that concept, but he's the boss here and it's good if he has a vision
>> how things should be lined out.
>>
>> In practice, there is little difference between a 'bus_type' and a 'class',
>> so just replace any instance of the former with the latter in your head
>> when reading the code ;-)
>
> it's not so simple :-) if we must use bus_type we need to introduce all
> the device/driver matching mechanism which isn't necessary with a class.
You have the code for phy <-> device matching in your framework anyway.
Using the bus infrastructure brings changes the open coded matching into
bus callbacks.
regards,
Marc
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-19 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-19 5:53 [PATCH v2 0/5] Generic PHY Framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-02-19 5:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] drivers: phy: add generic PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-02-19 8:01 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 12:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-19 13:56 ` kishon
2013-02-19 14:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-23 22:44 ` Rob Landley
2013-02-25 6:41 ` kishon
2013-02-19 5:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] usb: phy: omap-usb2: use the new " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-02-19 8:11 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 5:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] usb: otg: twl4030: " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-02-19 5:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] ARM: OMAP: USB: Add phy binding information Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-02-19 5:53 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] usb: musb: omap2430: use the new generic PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-02-19 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Generic PHY Framework Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-19 11:28 ` kishon
[not found] ` <512361F0.1070500-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-19 12:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-19 13:12 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 14:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-19 15:05 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 15:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-19 15:47 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-19 16:07 ` Marc Kleine-Budde [this message]
2013-02-19 16:17 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-23 20:05 ` Rob Landley
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