From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>
To: Jitendra Kalsaria <jitendra.kalsaria@qlogic.com>
Cc: John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] core: Add ioctls to control device unicast hw addresses
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:27:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <512E25FE.50807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BECD8E8A1B550B48A1BF97C13991F60E2D2E1A@avmb2.qlogic.org>
On 02/27/2013 12:42 AM, Jitendra Kalsaria wrote:
>
>
> On 2/26/13 9:01 PM, "John Fastabend" <john.r.fastabend@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2013 6:27 PM, Vlad Yasevich wrote:
>>> On 02/26/2013 09:07 PM, John Fastabend wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 05:15:03PM -0500, David Miller wrote:
>>>>> From: John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:58:39 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [RFC PATCH] rtnetlink: Add support for adding/removing additional
>>>>>>>>> hw
>>>>>>>>> addresses.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Add an ability to add and remove HW addresses to the device
>>>>>>>>> unicast and multicast address lists. Right now, we only have
>>>>>>>>> an ioctl() to manage the multicast addresses and there is no
>>>>>>>>> way the manage the unicast list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a step in the right direction, and you're right that there
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> a difficulty in detecting whether support exists or not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am so surprised that we've have ->set_rx_mode() support for
>>>>>>>> multiple
>>>>>>>> unicast MAC addresses in so many drivers all this time, yet no way
>>>>>>>> outside of FDB to make use of it at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And even that is not always available. In most drivers it requires
>>>>>>> module parameters or other explicit configuration steps. Meanwhile
>>>>>>> set_rx_mode() doesn't seem to depend on any of those and just does
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> right thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For what I was trying to do ioctl() was a really easy way out for
>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>> kernel and user space implementation, so I gave is shot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -vlad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't we already support this with
>>>>>
>>>>> The whole point is that these multiple-unicast-address configuration
>>>>> facilities are inaccessible without FDB, and there is no reason
>>>>> whatsoever for that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I see now sorry I was behind the thread.
>>>>
>>>> We could just use the fdb hooks and add a dflt routine to handle the
>>>> case where the netdev doesn't provide a specific ndo_op for us. This
>>>> boils down to calling set_rx_mode anyways through this call chain,
>>>>
>>>> ndo_fdb_add
>>>> dev_uc_add_excl
>>>> __dev_set_rx_mode
>>>> ndo_set_rx_mode
>>>>
>>>> As long as folks don't think this is too much of an abuse of the fdb
>>>> hooks. Here's an example I only compile tested this so take it as
>>>> an example only. It probably needs some cleanups and the dump routine
>>>> needs some thought not sure you want to dump all MACs always.
>>>
>>> I thought about doing, but this becomes broken on the drivers that
>>> support ndo_fdb_* functions. Those drivers mainly require additional
>>> configuration that is not necessary for dev_uc_add_excl() to work.
>>>
>>> For example, ixgbe and melanox requires VF to be on, qlogic needs a
>>> module parameter, macvlan has to be in passthrough. However,
>>> ndo_set_rx_mode() in most cases doesn't care about those settings and
>>> just works.
>>>
>>
>> The ixgbe piece could just use the dflt routines I put below. The
>> SR-IOV check is only there because when I wrote that I didn't consider
>> adding additional addresses without VFs. This was a poor example.
>>
>> The mlx4 card is checking if the device is a slave or master before
>> adding/removing addresses. My guess is this is the same type of check
>> as ixgbe and would work just fine without it.
>>
>> I'm not sure macvlan supports unicast hw addresses either way but
>> there is no reason we couldn't. The idea was we would come back and
>> write it later. Like many things I haven't got to it yet.
>>
>> Calling set_rx_mode() on qlcnic doesn't look to help you at all either
>> it appears to ignore the uc_list either way.
>
> Even though we use module parameter for fdb but it would be good it have
> set_rx_mode().
> We don't ignore uc_list but it never called set_rx_mode() when I use
> dev_uc_add_excl when added support and thought that's how it might
> designed.
I doesn't look like you ever call dev_uc_add_excl(). Also, since the
driver doesn't set IFF_UNICAST_FLT, anyone who does call that (macvlan
for instance) will end up turning promisc on.
-vlad
>
> -Jiten
>>
>> is that all the callers? looks like it.
>>
>>> So fdb will not always work even if the driver has proper support for
>>> IFF_UNICAST_FLT.
>>>
>>
>> The fdb could work if we fix the drivers it seems to me most
>> the cases where it wouldn't work are just lack of foresight or the code
>> isn't there yet. I think it might be valuable to have a single API for
>> both use cases.
>>
>> .John
>>
>>> -vlad
>>>
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-27 15:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-26 16:59 [RFC PATCH] core: Add ioctls to control device unicast hw addresses Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-26 17:43 ` David Miller
2013-02-26 19:44 ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-26 20:03 ` David Miller
2013-02-26 20:24 ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-26 20:48 ` David Miller
2013-02-26 21:58 ` John Fastabend
2013-02-26 22:15 ` David Miller
2013-02-27 2:07 ` John Fastabend
2013-02-27 2:27 ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-02-27 5:01 ` John Fastabend
2013-02-27 5:42 ` Jitendra Kalsaria
2013-02-27 7:34 ` John Fastabend
2013-02-27 15:27 ` Vlad Yasevich [this message]
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