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From: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: James Yonan <james@openvpn.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UDP "accept" proposed
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:41:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51C03940.9020704@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1371550627.3252.243.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On 06/18/2013 12:17 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 11:52 +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>> On 06/18/2013 10:48 AM, James Yonan wrote:
>> [...]
>>> This is a disaster from a performance perspective because you can't take a UDP server that
>>   > binds to a single port and efficiently scale it up across multiple threads or processors
>>   > because you must operate off a single socket.
>
> Well not with current linux ;)
>
>>> But this would be a huge performance win for UDP servers (I'm thinking about OpenVPN in
>>   > particular) because making the kernel smarter about dispatching UDP datagrams would make it
>>   > much easier to develop scalable UDP servers on Linux.
>
>>
>> So SO_REUSEPORT that was added in 3.9 by Tom Herbert wouldn't
>> help in your case (+ f.e. steering flows to CPUs locally) ?
>>
>>     https://lwn.net/Articles/542629/
>
> Yes, but no need for particular steering.
>
> Incoming UDP message will match the 'connected socket' and will be
> delivered to the socket.
>
> RFS will then automatically do the right thing
>   ( Documentation/networking/scaling.txt )

+1, this was what I meant. I should have been more specific. ;-)

> Note that if you have a lot of sockets bound to the same port,
> this fix is needed :
>
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/davem/net.git/commit/?id=c87a124a5d5e8cf8e21c4363c3372bcaf53ea190

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-18 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-18  8:48 UDP "accept" proposed James Yonan
2013-06-18  9:52 ` Daniel Borkmann
2013-06-18 10:17   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-18 10:41     ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2013-06-18  9:54 ` David Laight

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