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From: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <mleitner@redhat.com>
To: Debabrata Banerjee <dbavatar@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	"jmorris@namei.org" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org" <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	"Banerjee, Debabrata" <dbanerje@akamai.com>,
	Joshua Hunt <johunt@akamai.com>
Subject: Re: [patch net] ipv6: do not create neighbor entries for local delivery
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:02:36 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5203EB4C.5020905@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130808190136.GE14001@order.stressinduktion.org>

Em 08-08-2013 16:01, Hannes Frederic Sowa escreveu:
> On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 02:45:40PM -0400, Debabrata Banerjee wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>>> From: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <mleitner@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> They will be created at output, if ever needed. This avoids creating
>>> empty neighbor entries when TPROXYing/Forwarding packets for addresses
>>> that are not even directly reachable.
>>>
>>> Note that IPv4 already handles it this way. No neighbor entries are
>>> created for local input.
>>>
>>> Tested by myself and customer.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
>>> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <mleitner@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> I'm not sure this patch is doing the right thing. It seems to break
>> IPv6 loopback functionality, it is no longer equivalent to IPv4, as
>> stated above. It doesn't just stop neighbor creation but it stops
>> cached route creation. Seems like a scary change for a stable tree.
>> See below:
>>
>> $ ip -4 route show local
>> local 127.0.0.0/8 dev lo  proto kernel  scope host  src 127.0.0.1
>>
>> This local route enables us to use the whole loopback network, any
>> address inside 127.0.0.0/8 will work.
>>
>> $ ping -c1 127.0.0.9
>> PING 127.0.0.9 (127.0.0.9) 56(84) bytes of data.
>> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.9: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.012 ms
>>
>> --- 127.0.0.9 ping statistics ---
>> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
>> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.012/0.012/0.012/0.000 ms
>>
>> This also used to work equivalently for IPv6 local loopback routes:
>>
>> $ ip -6 route add local 2001:::/64 dev lo
>> $ ping6 -c1 2001::9
>> PING 2001::9(2001::9) 56 data bytes
>> 64 bytes from 2001::9: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.010 ms
>>
>> --- 2001::9 ping statistics ---
>> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
>> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.010/0.010/0.010/0.000 ms
>>
>> However with this patch, this is very broken:
>>
>> $ ip -6 route add local 2001::/64 dev lo
>> $ ping6 -c1 2001::9
>> PING 2001::9(2001::9) 56 data bytes
>> ping: sendmsg: Invalid argument
>>
>> --- 2001::9 ping statistics ---
>> 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
>
> Which kernel version are you using? Perhaps you miss another fix? It works for
> me. Also I cannot find this patch in net-next?

It wasn't needed/applied as the route cache was removed.

Regards,
Marcelo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-08 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-30  8:26 [patch net] ipv6: do not create neighbor entries for local delivery Jiri Pirko
2013-01-31  1:26 ` David Miller
2013-08-08 18:45 ` Debabrata Banerjee
2013-08-08 19:01   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-08 19:02     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner [this message]
2013-08-08 19:06       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-08 19:11         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2013-08-08 19:16           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-08 19:23             ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2013-08-08 19:19     ` Debabrata Banerjee
2013-08-08 19:47   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-08 20:16     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-08 20:45       ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2013-08-08 20:46         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2013-08-12 18:09       ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2013-08-12 22:26         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-13 12:48           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner

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