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From: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<jonathan.davies@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] xen-netback: TX grant mapping instead of copy
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 17:37:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52977F5C.7090703@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1383821563.26213.168.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>

On 07/11/13 10:52, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 19:00 +0000, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>> On 01/11/13 10:50, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> Does this always avoid copying when bridging/openvswitching/forwarding
>>> (e.g. masquerading etc)? For both domU->domU and domU->physical NIC?
>> I've tested the domU->domU, domU->physical with bridge and openvswitch
>> usecase, and now I've created a new stat counter to see how often copy
>> happens (the callback's second parameter tells you whether the skb was
>> freed or copied). It doesn't do copy in all of these scenarios.
>> What do you mean by forwarding? The scenario when you use bridge and
>> iptables mangling with the packet, not just filtering?
>
> I mean using L3 routing rather L2 bridging. Which might involve
> NAT/MASQUERADE or might just be normal IP routing.
I still couldn't find time to try out this scenario, but I think in this 
case packet goes through deliver_skb, which means it will get copied. So 
performance would be a bit worse due to the extra map/unmap. And I'm 
afraid we can't help that too much due to this:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/20/363
However I think using Dom0 as a router/firewall is already a suboptimal 
solution, so maybe a small performance regression is acceptable?
Anyway, I will try this out, and see if it really copies everything, and 
get some numbers as well.

>>> How does it deal with broadcast traffic?
Now I had time to check it: broadcast packets get copied only once, when 
cloning happens. It will swap out the frags with local ones, so any 
subsequent cloning will have a local SKB.

Zoli

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-28 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-30  0:50 [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] xen-netback: TX grant mapping instead of copy Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30  0:50 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 1/5] xen-netback: Introduce TX grant map definitions Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30  9:28   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-10-31 19:22     ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-31 19:33   ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30  0:50 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 2/5] xen-netback: Change TX path from grant copy to mapping Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30  9:11   ` [Xen-devel] " Paul Durrant
2013-10-30 21:10     ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-11-01 16:09       ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30  0:50 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 3/5] xen-netback: Remove old TX grant copy definitons Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30  9:39   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-10-31 19:46     ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30 11:13   ` Wei Liu
2013-10-30  0:50 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 4/5] xen-netback: Fix indentations Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30 11:13   ` Wei Liu
2013-10-31 19:48     ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30  0:50 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 4/5] xen-netback: Change RX path for mapped SKB fragments Zoltan Kiss
2013-10-30 19:16 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] xen-netback: TX grant mapping instead of copy Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-30 19:17   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-30 21:14     ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-11-01 10:50 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-01 19:00   ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-11-05 17:01     ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-11-07 10:52     ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-28 17:37       ` Zoltan Kiss [this message]
2013-11-28 17:43         ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-12 22:08           ` Zoltan Kiss
2013-12-16 10:14             ` Ian Campbell

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