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From: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>
To: Norbert van Bolhuis <nvbolhuis@aimvalley.nl>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	uaca@alumni.uv.es
Subject: Re: single process receives own frames due to PACKET_MMAP
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 16:26:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52CC1C94.2060808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52CC1A61.5080205@aimvalley.nl>

On 01/07/2014 04:16 PM, Norbert van Bolhuis wrote:
> On 01/07/14 15:09, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:16:03 +0100
>> Norbert van Bolhuis<nvbolhuis@aimvalley.nl>  wrote:
>>> On 01/07/14 11:06, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 10:32:01 +0100
>>>> Daniel Borkmann<dborkman@redhat.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/06/2014 11:58 PM, Norbert van Bolhuis wrote:
>>>>>>
>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd say it makes no sense to make the same process receive its
>>>>>> own transmitted frames on that same interface (unless its lo).
>>>>
>>>> Have you setup:
>>>>    ring->s_ll.sll_protocol = 0
>>>>
>>>> This is what I did in trafgen to avoid this problem.
>>>>
>>>> See line 55 in netsniff-ng/ring.c:
>>>>    https://github.com/borkmann/netsniff-ng/blob/c3602a995b21e8133c7f4fd1fb1e7e21b6a844f1/ring.c#L55
>>>>
>>>> Commit:
>>>>    https://github.com/borkmann/netsniff-ng/commit/c3602a995b21e8133c7f4fd1fb1e7e21b6a844f1
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No I did not do that, I was checking my code against netsniff-ng-0.5.8-rc4.
>>>
>>> But I just tried it, I believe I do the same as netsniff-ng-0.5.8-rc5, but it doesn't
>>> work for me. Maybe because I have an old FC14 system (kernel 2.6.35.14-106.fc14.x86_64).
>>>
>>> So I tried to see whether netsniff-ng-0.5.8-rc5/trafgen still makes the
>>> kernel call packet_rcv() on my FC14 system. So I build and run it, but I'm not sure
>>> how to (easily) check that.
>>
>> The easiest way is to:
>>    cat /proc/net/ptype
>> And look if someone registered a proto handler/function: packet_rcv (or tpacket_rcv).
>>
>> The more exact method is, to run "perf record -a -g" and then look (at
>> the result with "perf report") for a lock contention, and "expand" the
>> spin_lock and see if packet_rcv() is calling this spin lock.
>>
>
>
> I checked the easy way.
> Even on my old FC14 system the "protocol=0 patch" seems to make a difference
> for trafgen.
> Without the patch I see for each CPU in use by trafgen a "packet_rcv entry" in
> /proc/net/ptype.
> With the patch I see no additional "packet_rcv entry".

Yes, that is expected behaviour. ;-) See more below.

> It could be my Appl is wrong or maybe the "protocol=0 patch" does not help.
> I think the latter, afterall my Appl has, unlike trafgen, another RX
> (AF_PACKET) socket.
>
>
>>
>>> In anyway, Wireshark does capture the trafgen generated
>>> frames, does that say anything ?
>>
>> Be careful not to start a wireshark/tcpdump, at the sametime, as this
>> will slow you down.
>>
>>> In the future, I can at least use PACKET_QDISC_BYPASS as a "workaround".
>>
>> And in the future with PACKET_QDISC_BYPASS, your wireshark will not
>> catch these packets, remember that.
>>
>
>
> Yes, this is why I would love to see the "protocol=0 patch" work for my Appl.
>
> So I will try my Appl with the latest net-next kernel to see if that makes
> it work. Hopefully I can find some time in the next coming days, I will keep
> you informed.

As long as there's at least one single PF_PACKET receive socket open and you
do not make use of PACKET_QDISC_BYPASS on your tx socket, then those packets go
back the dev_queue_xmit_nit() path, even if your tx socket uses protocol=0.

If you make use of PACKET_QDISC_BYPASS [1] for your particular tx socket, then
packets generated by that socket will not hit the dev_queue_xmit_nit() path
back to other possible rx listeners that are present on your system (w/ the
side-effects for tx as described in [1]).

   [1] Documentation/networking/packet_mmap.txt +960

> ---
> Norbert

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-07 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20 13:30 i386 vs x86_64 struct tpacket_hdr layout Norbert van Bolhuis
2013-12-20 18:38 ` David Miller
2013-12-20 18:45   ` Daniel Borkmann
2013-12-20 21:22     ` Norbert van Bolhuis
2014-01-06 22:58 ` single process receives own frames due to PACKET_MMAP Norbert van Bolhuis
2014-01-07  9:32   ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-01-07 10:06     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2014-01-07 13:16       ` Norbert van Bolhuis
2014-01-07 13:47         ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-01-07 14:09         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2014-01-07 15:16           ` Norbert van Bolhuis
2014-01-07 15:26             ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2014-01-07 15:46               ` Norbert van Bolhuis
2014-01-07 15:57                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-01-08 14:18                   ` Norbert van Bolhuis
2014-01-08 14:24                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-01-08 14:36                       ` Norbert van Bolhuis

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