From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, dborkman@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, darkjames-ws@darkjames.pl
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] reciprocal_divide: correction/update of the algorithm
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:22:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52D58E6F.4050000@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1389722825.31367.260.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>
On 2014-01-14 13:07, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 22:42 +0100, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
>> This patch is a RFC and part of a series Daniel Borkmann and me want to
>> do when introducing prandom_u32_range{,_ro} and prandom_u32_max{,_ro}
>> helpers later this week.
>
>> -static inline u32 reciprocal_divide(u32 A, u32 R)
>> +struct reciprocal_value reciprocal_value(u32 d);
>> +
>> +static inline u32 reciprocal_divide(u32 a, struct reciprocal_value R)
>> {
>> - return (u32)(((u64)A * R) >> 32);
>> + u32 t = (u32)(((u64)a * R.m) >> 32);
>> + return (t + ((a - t) >> R.sh1)) >> R.sh2;
>> }
>
> I would rather introduce new helpers and convert users that really need
> them.
>
> For instance, just use a divide in BPF, because doing this on JIT might
> be too complex for the gains. Strangely, libpcap doesn't seem to
> optimize any divide, like divides by a power of two...
>
> Reciprocal were added 7 years ago, for very specific uses, but current
> cpus have reasonably fast dividers.
I disagree with the statement that current CPU's have reasonably fast
dividers. A lot of embedded processors and many low-end x86 CPU's do
not in-fact have any hardware divider, and usually provide it using
microcode based emulation if they provide it at all. The AMD Jaguar
micro-architecture in particular comes to mind, it uses an iterative
division algorithm provided by the microcode that only produces 2 bits
of quotient per cycle, even in the best case (2 8-bit integers and an
integral 8-bit quotient) this still takes 4 cycles, which is twice as
slow as any other math operation on the same processor.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-14 19:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-13 21:42 [PATCH RFC] reciprocal_divide: correction/update of the algorithm Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-01-14 18:02 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-01-15 15:02 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-01-14 18:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-14 19:22 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2014-01-14 19:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-14 20:10 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-01-14 20:53 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-01-14 22:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-14 23:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-15 2:51 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2014-01-14 22:39 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-01-15 7:02 ` [PATCH net] bpf: do not use reciprocal divide Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 7:28 ` David Miller
2014-01-15 7:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 8:00 ` Heiko Carstens
2014-01-15 8:13 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-01-15 10:51 ` Heiko Carstens
2014-01-15 14:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 14:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 " Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 15:10 ` Matt Evans
2014-01-15 16:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-16 1:02 ` David Miller
2014-01-17 8:59 ` Heiko Carstens
2014-01-18 2:56 ` David Miller
2014-01-18 10:12 ` Heiko Carstens
2014-01-15 15:35 ` [PATCH " Martin Schwidefsky
2014-01-15 15:26 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-01-15 16:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 14:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 15:10 ` Heiko Carstens
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