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From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, dborkman@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, darkjames-ws@darkjames.pl
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] reciprocal_divide: correction/update of the algorithm
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:22:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52D58E6F.4050000@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1389722825.31367.260.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On 2014-01-14 13:07, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 22:42 +0100, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
>> This patch is a RFC and part of a series Daniel Borkmann and me want to
>> do when introducing prandom_u32_range{,_ro} and prandom_u32_max{,_ro}
>> helpers later this week.
> 
>> -static inline u32 reciprocal_divide(u32 A, u32 R)
>> +struct reciprocal_value reciprocal_value(u32 d);
>> +
>> +static inline u32 reciprocal_divide(u32 a, struct reciprocal_value R)
>>  {
>> -	return (u32)(((u64)A * R) >> 32);
>> +	u32 t = (u32)(((u64)a * R.m) >> 32);
>> +	return (t + ((a - t) >> R.sh1)) >> R.sh2;
>>  }
> 
> I would rather introduce new helpers and convert users that really need
> them.
> 
> For instance, just use a divide in BPF, because doing this on JIT might
> be too complex for the gains. Strangely, libpcap doesn't seem to
> optimize any divide, like divides by a power of two...
> 
> Reciprocal were added 7 years ago, for very specific uses, but current
> cpus have reasonably fast dividers.

I disagree with the statement that current CPU's have reasonably fast
dividers.  A lot of embedded processors and many low-end x86 CPU's do
not in-fact have any hardware divider, and usually provide it using
microcode based emulation if they provide it at all.  The AMD Jaguar
micro-architecture in particular comes to mind, it uses an iterative
division algorithm provided by the microcode that only produces 2 bits
of quotient per cycle, even in the best case (2 8-bit integers and an
integral 8-bit quotient) this still takes 4 cycles, which is twice as
slow as any other math operation on the same processor.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-14 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-13 21:42 [PATCH RFC] reciprocal_divide: correction/update of the algorithm Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-01-14 18:02 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-01-15 15:02   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-01-14 18:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-14 19:22   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2014-01-14 19:50     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-14 20:10       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-01-14 20:53       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-01-14 22:45         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-14 23:25           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-15  2:51             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2014-01-14 22:39   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-01-15  7:02 ` [PATCH net] bpf: do not use reciprocal divide Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15  7:28   ` David Miller
2014-01-15  7:39     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15  8:00   ` Heiko Carstens
2014-01-15  8:13     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-01-15 10:51       ` Heiko Carstens
2014-01-15 14:21         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 14:25           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 14:50             ` [PATCH v2 " Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 15:10               ` Matt Evans
2014-01-15 16:09                 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-16  1:02               ` David Miller
2014-01-17  8:59                 ` Heiko Carstens
2014-01-18  2:56                   ` David Miller
2014-01-18 10:12                     ` Heiko Carstens
2014-01-15 15:35             ` [PATCH " Martin Schwidefsky
2014-01-15 15:26           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-01-15 16:07             ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 14:16     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-01-15 15:10       ` Heiko Carstens

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