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From: Chen Gang <gang.chen.5i5j@gmail.com>
To: James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>
Cc: devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, andreas.dilger@intel.com,
	Antonio Quartulli <antonio@meshcoding.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	bergwolf@gmail.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	oleg.drokin@intel.com, jacques-charles.lafoucriere@cea.fr,
	jinshan.xiong@intel.com, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-metag@vger.kernel.org,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers: staging: lustre: lustre: include: add "__attribute__((packed))" for the related union
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:55:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52E3A642.7010307@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52DE4DA3.7090301@imgtec.com>

On 01/21/2014 06:36 PM, James Hogan wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> 
> On 20/01/14 21:13, Dan Carpenter wrote:
>> I made a quick and dirty sparse patch to check for this.  I don't think
>> I will bother trying to send it to sparse upstream, but you can if you
>> want to.
>>
>> It found 289 unions which might need a __packed added.  The lustre
>> unions were not in my allmodconfig so they're not listed.
> 
> Thanks a lot for this, it seems to be useful. I'm adapting it to reduce
> false negatives (e.g. omitting the check if the struct/union is already
> packed), and I imagine it could be made to only warn about padded
> unpacked structs/unions which are used as nested members of packed
> structs/unions. It wouldn't catch everything but would probably catch a
> lot of cases that are most likely to be genuine since they would have
> been packed at the outer level for a reason.
> 
>> Perhaps there could be a command line option or a pragma so that unions
>> will work in the kernel.  We don't care about linking to outside
>> libraries.
> 
> We still interact with userland via structs and unions, so it would
> probably have to exclude anything in uapi/.
> 

Thank all of you firstly.

But excuse me, I am still not quit clear that: "what need we do enough
to solve this feature issue?"

So I guess our current result is:

 - It is not a good idea to only let kernel to fit with compiler.

 - It is not a good idea to only let compiler to fit with kernel.

 - Need let compiler and kernel to fit with each other:

   - compiler will print related warning, but not break compiling.
     so metag compiler need be improvement (check and warn for it).

   - if check alignment explicitly in kernel source code, it need be
     fixed within kernel: "apply related patches (pack each struct or
     union), but the related patch comments need be improved".

Is what I guess correct?

Thanks.
-- 
Chen Gang

Open, share and attitude like air, water and life which God blessed

       reply	other threads:[~2014-01-25 11:55 UTC|newest]

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2014-01-25 11:55                     ` Chen Gang [this message]
2014-02-01 13:57                       ` [PATCH] drivers: staging: lustre: lustre: include: add "__attribute__((packed))" for the related union Chen Gang
2014-02-03  8:58                         ` Dan Carpenter
2014-02-03 10:03                           ` Chen Gang
     [not found]                             ` <52EF6965.6040406-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-03 11:35                               ` Chen Gang
2014-02-03 10:05                           ` David Laight
2014-02-03 10:22                             ` James Hogan
2014-02-03 10:30                               ` Chen Gang
     [not found]                               ` <52EF6DCC.6040807-1AXoQHu6uovQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-03 10:35                                 ` David Laight
2014-02-03 11:02                                   ` James Hogan
2014-02-03 11:54                                     ` David Laight
     [not found]                             ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D0F6B772B-VkEWCZq2GCInGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-03 10:25                               ` Chen Gang

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