netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Monam Agarwal <monamagarwal123@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, jasowang@redhat.com, xemul@parallels.com,
	wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, therbert@google.com, yamato@redhat.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers/net: Use RCU_INIT_POINTER(x, NULL) in tun.c
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 16:47:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532FF124.1030209@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1395638727.9117.55.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On 03/24/2014 01:25 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 07:09 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
>> Seems an incredibly strict requirement for something that just
>> silences a warning.
>> What exactly should I test?
>> I intended to just verify this produces same code as before
>> d322f45ceed525daa under a recent gcc.
> 
> Thats because many rcu_assign_pointer(X, NULL) were already converted to
> RCU_INIT_POINTER(X, NULL)
> 
> Quite frankly I don't know why you bother at all.
> 
> Adding back the lazy test in rcu_assign_pointer() doesn't help to make
> the API cleaner and easier to understand.
> 
> People are usually using RCU API without really understanding
> all the issues. They tend to add superfluous barriers because they feel
> better. 
> 
> Having separate RCU_INIT_POINTER() and rcu_assign_pointer() serve as
> better documentation of the code, I find it more easier to immediately
> check what is going on while reviewing stuff.
> 
> Presumably, checkpatch.pl could be augmented to suggest to use
> RCU_INIT_POINTER(X, NULL) instead of rcu_assign_pointer(X, NULL)


I prefer rcu_assign_pointer(X, NULL) than RCU_INIT_POINTER(X, NULL),
NULL should not be a special pointer value to the users of RCU.

the RCU implements should hide the difference if RCU implements
differentiate the values for optimization.

RCU_INIT_POINTER() sounds as an initialization-stage API. If we need
something different for NULL pointer, I prefer
rcu_assign_*null*_pointer().

rcu_assign_pointer(X, NULL) implies compiler barrier(), but
RCU_INIT_POINTER(X, NULL) doesn't.

> 
> 
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-24  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-23 18:32 [PATCH] drivers/net: Use RCU_INIT_POINTER(x, NULL) in tun.c Monam Agarwal
2014-03-23 19:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-23 19:54   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-23 21:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-23 22:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-24  5:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-24  5:25           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-24  6:22             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-24  8:57               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-24 12:53               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-24  8:47             ` Lai Jiangshan [this message]
2014-03-24 13:38               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-26  1:19 ` David Miller

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=532FF124.1030209@cn.fujitsu.com \
    --to=laijs@cn.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=eric.dumazet@gmail.com \
    --cc=jasowang@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=monamagarwal123@gmail.com \
    --cc=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=therbert@google.com \
    --cc=wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=xemul@parallels.com \
    --cc=yamato@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).