* Moving frags and SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs
@ 2014-05-14 13:40 Zoltan Kiss
2014-05-14 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
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From: Zoltan Kiss @ 2014-05-14 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: netdev; +Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, kvm, Eric Dumazet, David Miller
Hi,
Recently I've investigated issues around SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs where
the frags list were modified. I came across this function skb_shift(),
which moves frags between skbs. And there are a lot more of such kind,
skb_split or skb_try_coalesce, for example.
It could be a dangerous thing if a frag is referenced from an skb which
doesn't have the original destructor_arg, and to avoid that
skb_orphan_frags should be called. Although probably these functions are
not normally touched in usual usecases, I think it would be useful to
review core skb functions proactively and add an skb_orphan_frags
everywhere where the frags could be referenced from other places.
Any opinion about this?
Regards,
Zoltan
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* Re: Moving frags and SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs
2014-05-14 13:40 Moving frags and SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs Zoltan Kiss
@ 2014-05-14 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-14 17:42 ` David Miller
2014-05-14 19:41 ` Zoltan Kiss
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Dumazet @ 2014-05-14 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zoltan Kiss; +Cc: netdev, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, kvm, David Miller
On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 14:40 +0100, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Recently I've investigated issues around SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs where
> the frags list were modified. I came across this function skb_shift(),
> which moves frags between skbs. And there are a lot more of such kind,
> skb_split or skb_try_coalesce, for example.
> It could be a dangerous thing if a frag is referenced from an skb which
> doesn't have the original destructor_arg, and to avoid that
> skb_orphan_frags should be called. Although probably these functions are
> not normally touched in usual usecases, I think it would be useful to
> review core skb functions proactively and add an skb_orphan_frags
> everywhere where the frags could be referenced from other places.
> Any opinion about this?
For skb_shift(), it is currently used from tcp stack only, where
this SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY thing is not used, so I do not think there is a
bug for the moment.
I already gave a patch for skb_try_coalesce() : For this one we do not
wan skb_orphan_frags() overhead. Its simply better in this case to
abort.
diff --git a/net/core/skbuff.c b/net/core/skbuff.c
index 1b62343f5837..85995a14aafc 100644
--- a/net/core/skbuff.c
+++ b/net/core/skbuff.c
@@ -3838,7 +3839,10 @@ bool skb_try_coalesce(struct sk_buff *to, struct sk_buff *from,
return true;
}
- if (skb_has_frag_list(to) || skb_has_frag_list(from))
+ if (skb_has_frag_list(to) ||
+ skb_has_frag_list(from) ||
+ (skb_shinfo(to)->tx_flags & SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY) ||
+ (skb_shinfo(from)->tx_flags & SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY))
return false;
if (skb_headlen(from) != 0) {
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* Re: Moving frags and SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs
2014-05-14 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
@ 2014-05-14 17:42 ` David Miller
2014-05-14 17:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-14 19:41 ` Zoltan Kiss
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Miller @ 2014-05-14 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: eric.dumazet; +Cc: zoltan.kiss, netdev, xen-devel, kvm
From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 07:23:52 -0700
> On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 14:40 +0100, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently I've investigated issues around SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs where
>> the frags list were modified. I came across this function skb_shift(),
>> which moves frags between skbs. And there are a lot more of such kind,
>> skb_split or skb_try_coalesce, for example.
>> It could be a dangerous thing if a frag is referenced from an skb which
>> doesn't have the original destructor_arg, and to avoid that
>> skb_orphan_frags should be called. Although probably these functions are
>> not normally touched in usual usecases, I think it would be useful to
>> review core skb functions proactively and add an skb_orphan_frags
>> everywhere where the frags could be referenced from other places.
>> Any opinion about this?
>
>
> For skb_shift(), it is currently used from tcp stack only, where
> this SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY thing is not used, so I do not think there is a
> bug for the moment.
>
> I already gave a patch for skb_try_coalesce() : For this one we do not
> wan skb_orphan_frags() overhead. Its simply better in this case to
> abort.
Eric can you please submit this formally? It is second time I've seen
it posted as RFC :-)
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* Re: Moving frags and SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs
2014-05-14 17:42 ` David Miller
@ 2014-05-14 17:52 ` Eric Dumazet
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Dumazet @ 2014-05-14 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Miller; +Cc: zoltan.kiss, netdev, xen-devel, kvm
On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 13:42 -0400, David Miller wrote:
> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 07:23:52 -0700
>
> > On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 14:40 +0100, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Recently I've investigated issues around SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs where
> >> the frags list were modified. I came across this function skb_shift(),
> >> which moves frags between skbs. And there are a lot more of such kind,
> >> skb_split or skb_try_coalesce, for example.
> >> It could be a dangerous thing if a frag is referenced from an skb which
> >> doesn't have the original destructor_arg, and to avoid that
> >> skb_orphan_frags should be called. Although probably these functions are
> >> not normally touched in usual usecases, I think it would be useful to
> >> review core skb functions proactively and add an skb_orphan_frags
> >> everywhere where the frags could be referenced from other places.
> >> Any opinion about this?
> >
> >
> > For skb_shift(), it is currently used from tcp stack only, where
> > this SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY thing is not used, so I do not think there is a
> > bug for the moment.
> >
> > I already gave a patch for skb_try_coalesce() : For this one we do not
> > wan skb_orphan_frags() overhead. Its simply better in this case to
> > abort.
>
> Eric can you please submit this formally? It is second time I've seen
> it posted as RFC :-)
Sure, I was kind of waiting to make sure it was needed.
It looks like it is ;)
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* Re: Moving frags and SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs
2014-05-14 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-14 17:42 ` David Miller
@ 2014-05-14 19:41 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-05-14 19:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-15 17:14 ` Zoltan Kiss
1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Zoltan Kiss @ 2014-05-14 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Dumazet; +Cc: netdev, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, kvm, David Miller
On 14/05/14 15:23, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 14:40 +0100, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently I've investigated issues around SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs where
>> the frags list were modified. I came across this function skb_shift(),
>> which moves frags between skbs. And there are a lot more of such kind,
>> skb_split or skb_try_coalesce, for example.
>> It could be a dangerous thing if a frag is referenced from an skb which
>> doesn't have the original destructor_arg, and to avoid that
>> skb_orphan_frags should be called. Although probably these functions are
>> not normally touched in usual usecases, I think it would be useful to
>> review core skb functions proactively and add an skb_orphan_frags
>> everywhere where the frags could be referenced from other places.
>> Any opinion about this?
>
>
> For skb_shift(), it is currently used from tcp stack only, where
> this SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY thing is not used, so I do not think there is a
> bug for the moment.
It is called from tcp_input.c, which suggests it can be called on
incoming TCP packets. If the backend domain communicates with the
frontend through sockets, zerocopy packets can turn up here.
But here is the thing: deliver_skb calls orphan_frags for every packet
delivered to the local stack, so we are safe IF these functions are
called before the IP stack. So we are safe now, but things can go wrong, if:
- such a frag-mangling function is called before deliver_skb, now or in
the future
- if someone wants to take advantage of zerocopy in the guest<->backend path
>
> I already gave a patch for skb_try_coalesce() : For this one we do not
> wan skb_orphan_frags() overhead. Its simply better in this case to
> abort.
>
> diff --git a/net/core/skbuff.c b/net/core/skbuff.c
> index 1b62343f5837..85995a14aafc 100644
> --- a/net/core/skbuff.c
> +++ b/net/core/skbuff.c
> @@ -3838,7 +3839,10 @@ bool skb_try_coalesce(struct sk_buff *to, struct sk_buff *from,
> return true;
> }
>
> - if (skb_has_frag_list(to) || skb_has_frag_list(from))
> + if (skb_has_frag_list(to) ||
> + skb_has_frag_list(from) ||
> + (skb_shinfo(to)->tx_flags & SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY) ||
> + (skb_shinfo(from)->tx_flags & SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY))
> return false;
>
> if (skb_headlen(from) != 0) {
>
>
>
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* Re: Moving frags and SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs
2014-05-14 19:41 ` Zoltan Kiss
@ 2014-05-14 19:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-15 17:14 ` Zoltan Kiss
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From: Eric Dumazet @ 2014-05-14 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zoltan Kiss; +Cc: netdev, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, kvm, David Miller
On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 20:41 +0100, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
> On 14/05/14 15:23, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 14:40 +0100, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Recently I've investigated issues around SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs where
> >> the frags list were modified. I came across this function skb_shift(),
> >> which moves frags between skbs. And there are a lot more of such kind,
> >> skb_split or skb_try_coalesce, for example.
> >> It could be a dangerous thing if a frag is referenced from an skb which
> >> doesn't have the original destructor_arg, and to avoid that
> >> skb_orphan_frags should be called. Although probably these functions are
> >> not normally touched in usual usecases, I think it would be useful to
> >> review core skb functions proactively and add an skb_orphan_frags
> >> everywhere where the frags could be referenced from other places.
> >> Any opinion about this?
> >
> >
> > For skb_shift(), it is currently used from tcp stack only, where
> > this SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY thing is not used, so I do not think there is a
> > bug for the moment.
> It is called from tcp_input.c, which suggests it can be called on
> incoming TCP packets.
Nope.
We split outgoing packets, stored in the socket write queue.
These packets are locally generated by tcp_sendmsg() and tcp_sendpage(),
no way we use SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY yet.
This split happens when we receive an ACK, that's why it is in
tcp_input.c
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* Re: Moving frags and SKBTX_DEV_ZEROCOPY skbs
2014-05-14 19:41 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-05-14 19:52 ` Eric Dumazet
@ 2014-05-15 17:14 ` Zoltan Kiss
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Zoltan Kiss @ 2014-05-15 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Dumazet; +Cc: netdev, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, kvm, David Miller
On 14/05/14 20:41, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
> But here is the thing: deliver_skb calls orphan_frags for every packet
> delivered to the local stack, so we are safe IF these functions are
> called before the IP stack. So we are safe now, but things can go wrong,
> if:
> - such a frag-mangling function is called before deliver_skb, now or in
> the future
> - if someone wants to take advantage of zerocopy in the guest<->backend
> path
Running through the code I've found the following core functions can
shuffle frags between skbs (and don't handle zerocopy skbs already):
skb_gro_receive
skb_shift
skb_split
None of them can meet at the moment with zerocopy skbs, but it's better
to keep it in mind for the future, that would blow up these kind of skbs.
Zoli
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