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From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SCTP seems to lose its socket state.
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:50:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5391F14F.7030800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D17258A67@AcuExch.aculab.com>

On 06/06/2014 11:14 AM, David Laight wrote:
> From: David Laight
>> I've been looking at an ethernet trace from one of our customers.
>> They seem to have got an SCTP socket into a rather confused state.
>>
>> There seem to be a significant number of transmit ethernet frames
>> that don't read the far end.
>> This shouldn't cause a real problem, but we end up with the following:
>> This trace was taken on the linux system:
>>
>> 39964   0.304473        ->      SCTP    INIT
>> 39965   0.292669        <-      SCTP    INIT  (I think this has an invalid checksum)
>> 39968   0.467935        <-      SCTP    INIT
>> 39969   0.000093        ->      SCTP    INIT_ACK
>> 39970   0.003947        <-      SCTP    COOKIE_ECHO
>> 39971   0.000072        ->      SCTP    COOKIE_ACK
>> 39972   0.000337        ->      M3UA    ASPUP
>> 39979   0.809659        <-      SCTP    COOKIE_ECHO
>> 39980   0.000058        ->      SCTP    COOKIE_ACK
>> shutdown() called here - seems to be ignored
>> 39983   0.949471        <-      SCTP    COOKIE_ECHO
>> 39984   0.000053        ->      SCTP    COOKIE_ACK
>> 39986   0.730072        ->      M3UA    ASPUP           Same TSN as above
>> 40002   0.270589        ->      M3UA    ASPUP           Same TSN as above
>> 40008   3.689088        <-      SCTP    HEARTBEAT
>> 40009   0.000027        ->      SCTP    HEARTBEAT_ACK
>> 40014   0.261152        <-      SCTP    HEARTBEAT
>> 40015   0.000033        ->      SCTP    HEARTBEAT_ACK
>> 40026   0.123048        <-      SCTP    HEARTBEAT
>> 40027   0.000030        ->      SCTP    HEARTBEAT_ACK
>> 40036   1.615048        ->      M3UA    ASPUP           Same TSN as above
>>
>> There are no signs of any SACKs for the ASPUP, I think they have the
>> correct TSN (the same value as in the INIT_ACK).
>> No signs of any shutdowns or aborts from either system.
>>
>> As seems to be typical for M3UA the source and destination ports are
>> the same. No additional IP addresses appear in the INIT (etc) messages.
> 
> I think I've reproduced this on a 3.14.0 kernel.
> 
> System A: Bind to port 1234, connect to B:1234.
>           If the connect fails, retry 10 seconds later.
>           When the connection completes send some data.
>           Disconnect if the reflected data isn't received within 2 seconds.
> System B: Bind to port 1234, connect to A:1234.
>           If the connect fails, retry 10 seconds later.
>           Reflect any received data.
> 
> Initially the INIT chunks generate ABORTs (no listener) so both
> programs just retry every 10 seconds.
> 

Interesting...  I bet that if you drop the retry interval, or even
maybe remove it completely, you might get a connection faster.

You'll end up in the unexpected INIT cases, where the two ends are
trying to establish an association at the same time.

> On B run:
>     iptables -A INPUT -p sctp --chunk-types any INIT -j DROP
>     iptables -A INPUT -p sctp --chunk-types any DATA -j DROP
> The first allows the connection to complete.
> The second stops B acking the data.
> The data is resent on timeout, and the systems exchange HBs.
> 

Ok, that makes sense.

> I'd expect that a SHUTDOWN or ABORT be sent reasonably quickly.

Whey do expect that?  Since you drop the data at B, it is never
reflected back to A.  As such, A will continue retransmitting.
When you disconnect on A, you have unacknowledged data, so the
system will go into SHUTDOWN_PENDING state tying to get the remote
to ack the data and continue sending HB.  Which is I think what
you are observing.

> But the systems just exchange HBs for over 5 minutes.
> (I'm seeing an ABORT because B gives up waiting for the message.)

I think you might be seeing a shutdown_guard timer firing on A.
It defaults to 5 * rto_max and default rto_max is 1 min.

Tweak rto_max lower and you should see the ABORT faster.

I think for the above scenario applications, I'd recommend setting
SO_LINGER to on so that when A disconnects, it sends an ABORT
instead of waiting for unacked data to finish.

-vlad

> 
> If I discard the COOKIE_ECHO then I do see an outwards disconnect
> after a few retries.
> 
> I'm testing with sockets created by our M3UA kernel driver,
> and system B is running a much older kernel (2.6.26).
> Neither should make any difference.
> 
> 	David
> 
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-06 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-27 15:10 SCTP seems to lose its socket state David Laight
2014-05-28 20:18 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-05-29  9:03   ` David Laight
2014-05-29  9:12     ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-06-06 15:14 ` David Laight
2014-06-06 16:24   ` David Laight
2014-06-06 16:50   ` Vlad Yasevich [this message]
2014-06-09 12:49   ` David Laight
2014-06-09 18:37     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-06-10  8:29       ` David Laight
2014-06-09 22:44     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-06-13 10:53       ` David Laight
2014-06-13 18:48         ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-06-16  8:40           ` David Laight
2014-06-16 13:47             ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-06-16 14:46               ` David Laight
2014-06-17 11:28             ` Neil Horman

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