From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [patch net-next RFC 03/12] net: introduce generic switch devices support
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:14:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53F7969C.1060509@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140822125655.GB1916@nanopsycho.orion>
On 08/22/2014 05:56 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:42:04PM CEST, jhs@mojatatu.com wrote:
>> On 08/21/14 13:05, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>> 2014-08-21 9:18 GMT-07:00 Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>:
>>>> The goal of this is to provide a possibility to suport various switch
>>>> chips. Drivers should implement relevant ndos to do so. Now there is a
>>>> couple of ndos defines:
>>>> - for getting physical switch id is in place.
>>>> - for work with flows.
>>>>
>>>> Note that user can use random port netdevice to access the switch.
>>>
>>> I read through this patch set, and I still think that DSA is the
>>> generic switch infrastructure we already have because it does provide
>>> the following:
>>>
>>> - taking a generic platform data structure (C struct or Device Tree),
>>> validate, parse it and map it to internal kernel structures
>>> - instantiate per-port network devices based on the configuration data provided
>>> - delegate netdev_ops to the switch driver and/or the CPU NIC when relevant
>>> - provide support for hooking RX and TX traffic coming from the CPU NIC
>>>
>>> I would rather we build on the existing DSA infrastructure and add the
>>> flow-related netdev_ops rather than having the two remain in
>>> disconnect while flow-oriented switches driver get progressively
>>> added. I guess I should take a closer look at the rocker driver to see
>>> how hard would that be for you.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>> I thought we had concluded that DSA was a good path forward? Or maybe at
>> this stage we need to have several alternative approaches
>> and we eventually converge?
>
> That is true. I'm still unsure how to fit this on to DSA or how to change DSA
> the way this fits. This is my quest now. Will report back in a week or so.
>
I would like to use the flow ops in some of our NICs that have
a limited flow table in hardware. It might be easier to use the
NICs as the first implementers of the API even though they are
usually not as capable or large as flow tables in some of the
larger switch asics.
In my opinion it can replace the ioctl flow director APIs although
I don't like how it is tied to OVS in the some of the later RFC patches
but we can work on that.
.John
--
John Fastabend Intel Corporation
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-21 16:18 [patch net-next RFC 00/12] introduce rocker switch driver with openvswitch hardware accelerated datapath Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 02/12] net: rename netdev_phys_port_id to more generic name Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <1408637945-10390-3-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 12:23 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <53FC7C3C.3090901-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 14:10 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-26 17:14 ` Stephen Hemminger
[not found] ` <1408637945-10390-1-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 01/12] openvswitch: split flow structures into ovs specific and generic ones Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 03/12] net: introduce generic switch devices support Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:41 ` Ben Hutchings
2014-08-21 17:03 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <1408639283.13073.3.camel-nDn/Rdv9kqW9Jme8/bJn5UCKIB8iOfG2tUK59QYPAWc@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27 2:45 ` Tom Herbert
[not found] ` <1408637945-10390-4-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:05 ` Florian Fainelli
[not found] ` <CAGVrzcYtnpcP4pfCJ0GSya01LTk0WwbSV1f+voF2K=S5CR3Arg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 12:42 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-22 12:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-22 19:14 ` John Fastabend [this message]
[not found] ` <53F7969C.1060509-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 23:12 ` Scott Feldman
[not found] ` <20140822125655.GB1916-6KJVSR23iU488b5SBfVpbw@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23 1:02 ` Florian Fainelli
[not found] ` <CAGVrzcZS=Y2stxSNMfVjWTpPT8GoDOpOD9tExnDnoF0jj_owoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23 9:17 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-24 11:46 ` Thomas Graf
[not found] ` <20140824114605.GC32741-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 8:34 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-27 22:19 ` Cong Wang
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 06/12] net: introduce dummy switch Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <1408637945-10390-7-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 19:14 ` Andy Gospodarek
[not found] ` <20140826191420.GC5275-Me9pkO/C/lgvPfuUPAiksl6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-29 7:00 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 04/12] rtnl: expose physical switch id for particular device Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <1408637945-10390-5-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 19:08 ` John Fastabend
[not found] ` <53F79537.20207-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 8:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 05/12] net-sysfs: " Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 07/12] dsa: implement ndo_swdev_get_id Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:38 ` Ben Hutchings
2014-08-21 16:56 ` Florian Fainelli
[not found] ` <CAGVrzcbs1yGb5RW++XZ=2PFsqUjZGVGfWx5=QQYcEX6x4WOq9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:06 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <20140821170645.GB10633-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:12 ` Florian Fainelli
[not found] ` <CAGVrzcb=vkqPw2LUc4YO4Bs-eady2=1uN-jkG=kW2RnGx=24PQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 9:05 ` David Laight
2014-08-23 11:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 08/12] net: introduce netdev_phys_item_ids_match helper Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 09/12] openvswitch: introduce vport_op get_netdev Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 10/12] openvswitch: add support for datapath hardware offload Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <1408637945-10390-11-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 19:39 ` John Fastabend
[not found] ` <53F79C54.5050701-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 22:53 ` Scott Feldman
[not found] ` <464DB0A8-0073-4CE0-9483-0F36B73A53A1-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23 9:24 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-23 14:51 ` Thomas Graf
[not found] ` <20140823145126.GB24116-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23 17:09 ` John Fastabend
[not found] ` <53F8CAB9.8080407-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-24 11:32 ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-24 1:53 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-24 11:12 ` Thomas Graf
[not found] ` <20140824111218.GA32741-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-24 15:15 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
[not found] ` <53FA01AC.10507-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 2:24 ` Scott Feldman
[not found] ` <A67C7591-19BF-4431-9119-F61361F5E618-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 2:42 ` John Fastabend
[not found] ` <53FAA2A2.7070801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 13:53 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 14:17 ` Thomas Graf
[not found] ` <20140825141754.GA30140-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 16:15 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
[not found] ` <53FB6122.2040901-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 22:50 ` Thomas Graf
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2014-08-26 13:50 ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-08-26 14:06 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-26 14:58 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:22 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <20140826152217.GA1843-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:29 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:44 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <20140826154459.GB1843-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:54 ` Andy Gospodarek
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2014-08-26 16:19 ` Thomas Graf
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2014-08-26 18:41 ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-08-26 20:13 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-08-26 20:54 ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-29 14:20 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
[not found] ` <54008C47.5040503-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 8:13 ` Simon Horman
[not found] ` <20140901081343.GC12731-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 16:37 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-09-01 20:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-09-02 1:08 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:01 ` Scott Feldman
[not found] ` <D891A8EC-548C-453E-AC70-8431DAC4B8C4-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:12 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 14:26 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 13:42 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 14:54 ` Thomas Graf
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2014-08-25 16:48 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 22:11 ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-26 14:00 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 14:20 ` Thomas Graf
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[not found] ` <20140904090447.GB3176-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-04 16:30 ` Scott Feldman
[not found] ` <F4498A89-C1D6-4C5A-A6F0-942015D36B77-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05 4:08 ` Simon Horman
[not found] ` <20140905040810.GB32481-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05 7:02 ` Scott Feldman
[not found] ` <E3C7797F-081E-484F-918E-937C705B43D6-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05 10:46 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-09-08 0:02 ` Simon Horman
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 11/12] sw_flow: add misc section to key with in_port_ifindex field Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 12/12] rocker: introduce rocker switch driver Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 17:19 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-08-23 14:04 ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-29 7:06 ` Jiri Pirko
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