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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Eliezer Tamir <eliezer.tamir@linux.intel.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar jacob.e.keller@intel.com" <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:35:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54053AF8.6070907@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5404186E.4090409@linux.intel.com>

On 09/01/2014 02:55 PM, Eliezer Tamir wrote:
> On 26/08/2014 10:16, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 08/25/2014 09:16 PM, Eliezer Tamir wrote:
>>> Here are my 2 cents:
>>> I think Ingo's suggestion of only yielding to tasks with same or higher
>>> priority makes sense.
>> I'm not sure I get your meaning. Do you mean calling yield_to() directly
>> in sk_busy_loop?
> Think about the case where two processes are busy polling on the
> same CPU and the same device queue. Since busy polling processes
> incoming packets on the queue from any process, this scenario works
> well currently,

I see, but looks like we can simply do this by exiting the busy loop
when ndo_busy_poll() finds something but not for current socket?
>  and will not work at all when polling yields to other
> processes that are of the same priority that are running on the same
> CPU.

So yielding has its limitation, we need let scheduler to do the choice
instead.
>
> As a side note, there is a lot of room for improvement when two
> processes on the same CPU want to busy poll on different device
> queues.
> The RFC code I published for epoll support showed one possible
> way of solving this, but I'm sure that there are other possibilities.
>
> Maybe the networking subsystem should maintain a list of device
> queues that need busypolling and have a thread that would poll
> all of them when there's nothing better to do.

Not sure whether this method will scale considering thousands of sockets
and processes.
>
> I'm aware of similar work on busy polling on NVMe devices, so
> maybe there should be a global busypoll thread for all devices
> that support it.
>
> BTW, I have someone inside Intel that wants to test future patches. Feel
> free to send me patches for testing, even if they are not ready for
> publishing yet.
>
> Cheers,
> Eliezer

Ok, will do it, thanks a lot.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-02  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-21  8:05 [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Jason Wang
2014-08-21  8:05 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable Jason Wang
2014-08-21  8:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-08-22  2:53     ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 19:03   ` Amos Kong
2014-08-22  5:01   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-22  7:29     ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22  7:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-29  3:08         ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01  6:39           ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  3:29             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:15               ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  7:37                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  8:31                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03  6:49                   ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03  7:33                     ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  9:36                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  9:59                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03  7:51                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-04  6:51                       ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-22  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22  9:08       ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22 14:16         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-25  2:54           ` Jason Wang
2014-08-25 13:16           ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-26  7:16             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01  6:55               ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  3:35                 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2014-09-02  6:03                   ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  6:31                     ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  6:21                       ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03  6:59                         ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14  0:55                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  8:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-11 16:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13  7:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-13 13:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-13 13:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-14  0:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01  9:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01  9:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-01 10:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02  4:03             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02 10:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  6:58                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  9:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-02  3:38           ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02  7:19               ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 13:52 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22  7:27   ` Jason Wang

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