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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:38:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54053BC0.6060700@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140901100434.GD27892@worktop.ger.corp.intel.com>

On 09/01/2014 06:04 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 12:52:19PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 11:31:59AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 07:01:05AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>>>>> +++ b/include/net/busy_poll.h
>>>>> @@ -109,7 +109,8 @@ static inline bool sk_busy_loop(struct sock *sk, int nonblock)
>>>>>  		cpu_relax();
>>>>>  
>>>>>  	} while (!nonblock && skb_queue_empty(&sk->sk_receive_queue) &&
>>>>> -		 !need_resched() && !busy_loop_timeout(end_time));
>>>>> +		 !need_resched() && !busy_loop_timeout(end_time) &&
>>>>> +		 nr_running_this_cpu() < 2);
>>>>>  
>>> So as has been said by now; this is horrible.
>>>
>>> We should not export nr_running like this ever. Your usage of < 2
>>> implies this can be hit with nr_running == 0, and therefore you can also
>>> hit it with nr_running == 1 where the one is not network related and you
>>> get random delays.
>>>
>>> Worse still, you have BH (and thereby preemption) disabled, you should
>>> not _ever_ have undefined and indefinite waits like that.
>>>
>>> You also destroy any hope of dropping into lower power states; even when
>>> there's never going to be a packet ever again, also bad.
>> Hmm this patch sometimes makes us exit from the busy loop *earlier*.
>> How can this interfere with dropping into lower power states?
> Ah.. jetlag.. :/ I read it like it owuld indefinitely spin if there was
> only the 'one' task, not avoid the spin unless there was the one task.
>
> The nr_running thing is still horrible, but let me reread this patch
> description to see if it explains why that is a good thing.

I see, how about just exporting a boolean helper like
current_can_busy_loop() and take care all of the conditions (pending bhs
and rcu callbacks, runnable processes) in scheduler code itself?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-02  3:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-21  8:05 [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Jason Wang
2014-08-21  8:05 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable Jason Wang
2014-08-21  8:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-08-22  2:53     ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 19:03   ` Amos Kong
2014-08-22  5:01   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-22  7:29     ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22  7:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-29  3:08         ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01  6:39           ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  3:29             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:15               ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  7:37                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  8:31                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03  6:49                   ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03  7:33                     ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  9:36                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  9:59                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03  7:51                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-04  6:51                       ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-22  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22  9:08       ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22 14:16         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-25  2:54           ` Jason Wang
2014-08-25 13:16           ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-26  7:16             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01  6:55               ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  3:35                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:03                   ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  6:31                     ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  6:21                       ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03  6:59                         ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14  0:55                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  8:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-11 16:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13  7:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-13 13:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-13 13:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-14  0:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01  9:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01  9:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-01 10:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02  4:03             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02 10:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  6:58                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  9:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-02  3:38           ` Jason Wang [this message]
2014-09-02  6:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02  7:19               ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 13:52 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22  7:27   ` Jason Wang

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