From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:38:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54053BC0.6060700@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140901100434.GD27892@worktop.ger.corp.intel.com>
On 09/01/2014 06:04 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 12:52:19PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 11:31:59AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 07:01:05AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>>>>> +++ b/include/net/busy_poll.h
>>>>> @@ -109,7 +109,8 @@ static inline bool sk_busy_loop(struct sock *sk, int nonblock)
>>>>> cpu_relax();
>>>>>
>>>>> } while (!nonblock && skb_queue_empty(&sk->sk_receive_queue) &&
>>>>> - !need_resched() && !busy_loop_timeout(end_time));
>>>>> + !need_resched() && !busy_loop_timeout(end_time) &&
>>>>> + nr_running_this_cpu() < 2);
>>>>>
>>> So as has been said by now; this is horrible.
>>>
>>> We should not export nr_running like this ever. Your usage of < 2
>>> implies this can be hit with nr_running == 0, and therefore you can also
>>> hit it with nr_running == 1 where the one is not network related and you
>>> get random delays.
>>>
>>> Worse still, you have BH (and thereby preemption) disabled, you should
>>> not _ever_ have undefined and indefinite waits like that.
>>>
>>> You also destroy any hope of dropping into lower power states; even when
>>> there's never going to be a packet ever again, also bad.
>> Hmm this patch sometimes makes us exit from the busy loop *earlier*.
>> How can this interfere with dropping into lower power states?
> Ah.. jetlag.. :/ I read it like it owuld indefinitely spin if there was
> only the 'one' task, not avoid the spin unless there was the one task.
>
> The nr_running thing is still horrible, but let me reread this patch
> description to see if it explains why that is a good thing.
I see, how about just exporting a boolean helper like
current_can_busy_loop() and take care all of the conditions (pending bhs
and rcu callbacks, runnable processes) in scheduler code itself?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-02 3:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-21 8:05 [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Jason Wang
2014-08-21 8:05 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable Jason Wang
2014-08-21 8:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-08-22 2:53 ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 19:03 ` Amos Kong
2014-08-22 5:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-22 7:29 ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-29 3:08 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01 6:39 ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02 3:29 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02 6:15 ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02 7:37 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02 8:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03 6:49 ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03 7:33 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03 9:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03 7:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-04 6:51 ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-22 7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22 9:08 ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22 14:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-25 2:54 ` Jason Wang
2014-08-25 13:16 ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-26 7:16 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01 6:55 ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02 3:35 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02 6:03 ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02 6:31 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03 6:21 ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03 6:59 ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14 0:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03 8:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-11 16:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13 7:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-13 13:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-13 13:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-14 0:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 9:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-01 10:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02 4:03 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03 6:58 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03 9:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-02 3:38 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2014-09-02 6:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02 7:19 ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 13:52 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22 7:27 ` Jason Wang
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