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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Eliezer Tamir <eliezer.tamir@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:37:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540573B3.2010904@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54056076.2030603@linux.intel.com>

On 09/02/2014 02:15 PM, Eliezer Tamir wrote:
> On 02/09/2014 06:29, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 09/01/2014 02:39 PM, Eliezer Tamir wrote:
>>> On 29/08/2014 06:08, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>> Yes, but rx busy polling only works in process context and does not
>>>>> disable bh, so it may be not an issue.
>>> sk_busy_loop() uses rcu_read_lock_bh(), so it does run with bh disabled.
>> True, so we need probably also exit the loop when there are pending bhs.
> I'm not so sure, in the typical busy poll scenario, the incoming
> traffic is the most time-critical thing in the system.
> It's so important that you are willing to trade lots of CPU power
> for better latency. The user has decided that he wants to dedicate
> this CPU mostly for that. 

But user should increase the process priority or cgroup in this case.
> This is not something that plays nice with
> other apps, but this is what the user wants.

So the busy polling looks have a higher priority somehow than other
processes.
> So, you definitely don't want to starve any bh, and you should
> regularly re-enable bh's, but you also don't want to stop everything
> at any time a bh is scheduled.

If I get your meaning, you may want call to rcu_read_lock_bh() and get
socket napi id inside the do{} loop? This seems can prevent bhs from
being starved and can also handle the case that the packets were from
different NAPIs.
>
> You also want network processing on the queues that are busy polled
> to come through busy polling and not through NAPI, which is run in bh
> context.
>
> -Eliezer
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-02  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-21  8:05 [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Jason Wang
2014-08-21  8:05 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable Jason Wang
2014-08-21  8:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-08-22  2:53     ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 19:03   ` Amos Kong
2014-08-22  5:01   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-22  7:29     ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22  7:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-29  3:08         ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01  6:39           ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  3:29             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:15               ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  7:37                 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2014-09-02  8:31                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03  6:49                   ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03  7:33                     ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  9:36                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  9:59                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03  7:51                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-04  6:51                       ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-22  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22  9:08       ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22 14:16         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-25  2:54           ` Jason Wang
2014-08-25 13:16           ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-26  7:16             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01  6:55               ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  3:35                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:03                   ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  6:31                     ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  6:21                       ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03  6:59                         ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14  0:55                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  8:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-11 16:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13  7:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-13 13:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-13 13:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-14  0:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01  9:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01  9:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-01 10:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02  4:03             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02 10:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  6:58                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  9:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-02  3:38           ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02  7:19               ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 13:52 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22  7:27   ` Jason Wang

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