From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
therbert@google.com, alexander.h.duyck@intel.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] ipv6: refresh rt6i_genid in ip6_pol_route()
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:16:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <540D9E3A.4010208@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1410172092.11872.85.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>
Le 08/09/2014 12:28, Eric Dumazet a écrit :
> On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 10:11 +0200, Nicolas Dichtel wrote:
>> Le 08/09/2014 07:07, Eric Dumazet a écrit :
>>> On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 21:59 -0700, David Miller wrote:
>>>> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:43:54 -0700
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 21:27 -0700, David Miller wrote:
>>>>>> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:18:25 -0700
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 15:54 -0700, David Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This might be broken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are dealing here with persistent entries in the ipv6 routine trie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you just bump the genid on the next person to look it up, other
>>>>>>>> sockets and cached entities might not have validated the route yet,
>>>>>>>> and now will falsely see the route as valid. We have to ensure that
>>>>>>>> they too drop this route and perform a relookup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am confused, I thought it was the role of the cookie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Ie socket has to store its own cookie to be able to validate a route)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before 6f3118b571b8 patch, how was this done anyway ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If persistent routes cannot refresh the genid, then they are useless ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just speak about the genid aspect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that cookie (via node->fn_sernum) invalidates the path
>>>>>> in the fib_trie, but the genid protects against other circumstances
>>>>>> (matching IPSEC rule, f.e.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to make sure all other sockets did a full route lookup
>>>>>> (including IPSEC) before you can safely adjust the genid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could be wrong, recheck my analysis please :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> So this whole genid protection can not work, unless we make sure a
>>>>> socket cannot share a route with another socket.
>>>>>
>>>>> This means we have to clone all routes.
>>>>
>>>> I'm willing to revert the change in question if you think that's the
>>>> sanest way forward.
>>>>
>>>> The bug fix for more obscure use cases (IPSEC) if pointless if it
>>>> breaks more common things (TCP input route caching).
>>>
>>> Lets wait for Nicolas and/or Hannes input, they might have some ideas...
>>
>> The initial problem was in SCTP. Here is the thread after the v1 patch:
>> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/182235/
>>
>> Before the patch, SCTP stored the IPv6 route in its cache and if an IPsec
>> rules was inserted after that operation, SCTP never invalidated the cached
>> route to use a new xfrm route.
>
> This thread mentions output route.
Yes, it was the target.
>
> The problem I currently have with IPv6 early demux is for input routes.
It's clearly a regression.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-08 12:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-14 18:19 Performance regression on kernels 3.10 and newer Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 18:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 19:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 19:59 ` Rick Jones
2014-08-14 20:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 20:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 20:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 23:16 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 23:20 ` David Miller
2014-08-14 23:25 ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-21 23:24 ` David Miller
2014-09-06 14:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 15:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 15:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 16:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 18:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-07 19:05 ` [PATCH net] ipv6: refresh rt6i_genid in ip6_pol_route() Eric Dumazet
2014-09-07 22:54 ` David Miller
2014-09-08 4:18 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 4:27 ` David Miller
2014-09-08 4:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 4:59 ` David Miller
2014-09-08 5:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 8:11 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-08 10:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 12:16 ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
2014-09-08 18:48 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-09 12:58 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10 9:31 ` [PATCH net-next] ipv6: implement rt_genid_bump_ipv6 with fn_sernum and remove rt6i_genid Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10 13:26 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-10 13:42 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10 20:09 ` David Miller
2014-09-11 8:30 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 12:22 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 12:40 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 12:05 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 14:19 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 14:32 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 14:44 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 14:47 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-08 15:06 ` [PATCH v2 net-next] tcp: remove dst refcount false sharing for prequeue mode Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 21:21 ` David Miller
2014-09-08 21:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 22:41 ` David Miller
2014-09-09 23:56 ` David Miller
2014-08-15 17:15 ` Performance regression on kernels 3.10 and newer Alexander Duyck
2014-08-15 17:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-15 18:49 ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-15 19:10 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-15 22:16 ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-15 23:23 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-18 9:03 ` David Laight
2014-08-18 15:22 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-18 15:29 ` Rick Jones
2014-08-21 23:51 ` David Miller
2014-08-14 23:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-15 0:33 ` Rick Jones
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