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From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	therbert@google.com, alexander.h.duyck@intel.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] ipv6: refresh rt6i_genid in ip6_pol_route()
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:16:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540D9E3A.4010208@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1410172092.11872.85.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

Le 08/09/2014 12:28, Eric Dumazet a écrit :
> On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 10:11 +0200, Nicolas Dichtel wrote:
>> Le 08/09/2014 07:07, Eric Dumazet a écrit :
>>> On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 21:59 -0700, David Miller wrote:
>>>> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:43:54 -0700
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 21:27 -0700, David Miller wrote:
>>>>>> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:18:25 -0700
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 15:54 -0700, David Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This might be broken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are dealing here with persistent entries in the ipv6 routine trie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you just bump the genid on the next person to look it up, other
>>>>>>>> sockets and cached entities might not have validated the route yet,
>>>>>>>> and now will falsely see the route as valid.  We have to ensure that
>>>>>>>> they too drop this route and perform a relookup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am confused, I thought it was the role of the cookie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Ie socket has to store its own cookie to be able to validate a route)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before 6f3118b571b8 patch, how was this done anyway ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If persistent routes cannot refresh the genid, then they are useless ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just speak about the genid aspect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that cookie (via node->fn_sernum) invalidates the path
>>>>>> in the fib_trie, but the genid protects against other circumstances
>>>>>> (matching IPSEC rule, f.e.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to make sure all other sockets did a full route lookup
>>>>>> (including IPSEC) before you can safely adjust the genid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could be wrong, recheck my analysis please :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> So this whole genid protection can not work, unless we make sure a
>>>>> socket cannot share a route with another socket.
>>>>>
>>>>> This means we have to clone all routes.
>>>>
>>>> I'm willing to revert the change in question if you think that's the
>>>> sanest way forward.
>>>>
>>>> The bug fix for more obscure use cases (IPSEC) if pointless if it
>>>> breaks more common things (TCP input route caching).
>>>
>>> Lets wait for Nicolas and/or Hannes input, they might have some ideas...
>>
>> The initial problem was in SCTP. Here is the thread after the v1 patch:
>> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/182235/
>>
>> Before the patch, SCTP stored the IPv6 route in its cache and if an IPsec
>> rules was inserted after that operation, SCTP never invalidated the cached
>> route to use a new xfrm route.
>
> This thread mentions output route.
Yes, it was the target.

>
> The problem I currently have with IPv6 early demux is for input routes.
It's clearly a regression.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-08 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-14 18:19 Performance regression on kernels 3.10 and newer Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 18:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 19:50   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 19:59   ` Rick Jones
2014-08-14 20:31     ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 20:51       ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 20:46     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 23:16   ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 23:20     ` David Miller
2014-08-14 23:25       ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-21 23:24         ` David Miller
2014-09-06 14:45           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 15:27             ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 15:46               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 16:38                 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 18:21                   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-07 19:05                     ` [PATCH net] ipv6: refresh rt6i_genid in ip6_pol_route() Eric Dumazet
2014-09-07 22:54                       ` David Miller
2014-09-08  4:18                         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08  4:27                           ` David Miller
2014-09-08  4:43                             ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08  4:59                               ` David Miller
2014-09-08  5:07                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08  8:11                                   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-08 10:28                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 12:16                                       ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
2014-09-08 18:48                                   ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-09 12:58                                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10  9:31                                     ` [PATCH net-next] ipv6: implement rt_genid_bump_ipv6 with fn_sernum and remove rt6i_genid Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10 13:26                                       ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-10 13:42                                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10 20:09                                       ` David Miller
2014-09-11  8:30                                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 12:22                                           ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 12:40                                             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 12:05                                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 14:19                                           ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 14:32                                             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 14:44                                               ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 14:47                                                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-08 15:06               ` [PATCH v2 net-next] tcp: remove dst refcount false sharing for prequeue mode Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 21:21                 ` David Miller
2014-09-08 21:30                   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 22:41                     ` David Miller
2014-09-09 23:56                     ` David Miller
2014-08-15 17:15       ` Performance regression on kernels 3.10 and newer Alexander Duyck
2014-08-15 17:59         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-15 18:49         ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-15 19:10           ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-15 22:16             ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-15 23:23               ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-18  9:03                 ` David Laight
2014-08-18 15:22                   ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-18 15:29                     ` Rick Jones
2014-08-21 23:51         ` David Miller
2014-08-14 23:48     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-15  0:33       ` Rick Jones

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