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From: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 net-next 07/11] bpf: verifier (add ability to receive verification log)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:28:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <541B1624.80302@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMEtUuykgG70sP0tAmovLvPxgjwaR8h=R-c6Tyo6m96+Lg3sXQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 09/18/2014 05:24 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
...
> solve or not. If we decide to solve it, we need to have
> a plan to solve it all the way. Partial fix for size of bpf_attr
> is not a plan. It's something that is not addressing the problem
> completely. Little bit of help is not useful for userspace. It
> would need to deal with new types, verifier differences and
> other things that I mentioned earlier.

Hm, I don't think it would be a strict requirement to solve it
all the way, and I think that perf_event_open() with perf_copy_attr()
is not trying to do so either. It, however, is trying on a ``best
effort basis'' to still load something if new features are unused
by the binary (I guess you saw the comment in perf_copy_attr()).

Iff, e.g. due to new types we fail at the verifier stage, sure,
that's life since we only have backwards-compatible guarantee,
but in case we tried to use features we support, we're still able
to load the eBPF program while right now, we're rejecting it right
up-front. That's just my $0.02 ...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-18 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-17  0:39 [PATCH v13 net-next 00/11] eBPF syscall, verifier, testsuite Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v13 net-next 01/11] bpf: introduce BPF syscall and maps Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v13 net-next 02/11] bpf: enable bpf syscall on x64 and i386 Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v13 net-next 03/11] bpf: add lookup/update/delete/iterate methods to BPF maps Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v13 net-next 04/11] bpf: expand BPF syscall with program load/unload Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v13 net-next 05/11] bpf: handle pseudo BPF_CALL insn Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found] ` <1410914370-29883-1-git-send-email-ast-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17  0:39   ` [PATCH v13 net-next 06/11] bpf: verifier (add docs) Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39   ` [PATCH v13 net-next 07/11] bpf: verifier (add ability to receive verification log) Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]     ` <1410914370-29883-8-git-send-email-ast-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17  6:51       ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-09-17 16:08         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17 17:03           ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-09-17 19:17             ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]               ` <5419DE51.1060904-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17 19:37                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17 23:45                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]                     ` <CAMEtUuw0aDPpQhd13ssk2PDLffBJNeef9jicOnhQLH6KtJ8gsQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18  6:44                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-09-18 14:34                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-18 14:50                           ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]                             ` <541AF11C.9050405-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 15:24                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]                                 ` <CAMEtUuykgG70sP0tAmovLvPxgjwaR8h=R-c6Tyo6m96+Lg3sXQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 17:28                                   ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2014-09-17  0:39   ` [PATCH v13 net-next 08/11] bpf: handle pseudo BPF_LD_IMM64 insn Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v13 net-next 09/11] bpf: verifier (add branch/goto checks) Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v13 net-next 10/11] bpf: verifier (add verifier core) Alexei Starovoitov
2014-09-17  0:39 ` [PATCH v13 net-next 11/11] bpf: mini eBPF library, test stubs and verifier testsuite Alexei Starovoitov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-09-19 21:04 [PATCH v13 net-next 07/11] bpf: verifier (add ability to receive verification log) Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found] ` <CAMEtUux071cELLdoWs21WL0dqgdwj+O=P64aeXSfyUtFW9U69w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-19 21:38   ` David Miller

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