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From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: fw@strlen.de, dborkman@redhat.com, gerlitz.or@gmail.com,
	hannes@stressinduktion.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	john.ronciak@intel.com, amirv@mellanox.com,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, danny.zhou@intel.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v1 1/3] net: sched: af_packet support for direct ring access
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 18:18:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5431EDF7.3080201@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141005.210938.412085917241295226.davem@davemloft.net>

On 10/05/2014 06:09 PM, David Miller wrote:
> From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 02:29:51 +0200
>
>> John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There is one critical difference when running with these interfaces
>>> vs running without them. In the normal case the af_packet module
>>> uses a standard descriptor format exported by the af_packet user
>>> space headers. In this model because we are working directly with
>>> driver queues the descriptor format maps to the descriptor format
>>> used by the device. User space applications can learn device
>>> information from the socket option PACKET_DEV_DESC_INFO which
>>> should provide enough details to extrapulate the descriptor formats.
>>> Although this adds some complexity to user space it removes the
>>> requirement to copy descriptor fields around.
>>
>> I find it very disappointing that we seem to have to expose such
>> hardware specific details to userspace via hw-independent interface.
>>
>> How big of a cost are we talking about when you say that it 'removes
>> the requirement to copy descriptor fields'?
>
> FWIW, it also avoids the domain switch (which is just a fancy way
> to refer to performing the system call), both in and out.
>

Right, my description could have been better and called this out.

Thanks.

-- 
John Fastabend         Intel Corporation

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-06  1:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-06  0:06 [net-next PATCH v1 1/3] net: sched: af_packet support for direct ring access John Fastabend
2014-10-06  0:07 ` [net-next PATCH v1 2/3] net: sched: add direct ring acces via af_packet to ixgbe John Fastabend
2014-10-06  0:07 ` [net-next PATCH v1 3/3] net: packet: Document PACKET_DEV_QPAIR_SPLIT and friends John Fastabend
2014-10-06  0:29 ` [net-next PATCH v1 1/3] net: sched: af_packet support for direct ring access Florian Westphal
2014-10-06  1:09   ` David Miller
2014-10-06  1:18     ` John Fastabend [this message]
2014-10-06  1:12   ` John Fastabend
2014-10-06  9:49     ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-10-06 15:01       ` John Fastabend
2014-10-06 16:35         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2014-10-06 17:03         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-10-06 20:37           ` John Fastabend
2014-10-06 23:26             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-10-07 18:59               ` Neil Horman
2014-10-08 17:20                 ` John Fastabend
2014-10-09 13:36                   ` [PATCH] af_packet: Add Doorbell transmit mode to AF_PACKET sockets Neil Horman
2014-10-09 15:01                     ` John Fastabend
2014-10-09 16:05                       ` Neil Horman
2014-10-06 16:55 ` [net-next PATCH v1 1/3] net: sched: af_packet support for direct ring access Stephen Hemminger
2014-10-06 20:42   ` John Fastabend
2014-10-06 21:42 ` David Miller
2014-10-07  4:25   ` John Fastabend
2014-10-07  4:24 ` Willem de Bruijn
2014-10-07  9:27   ` David Laight
2014-10-07 15:43     ` David Miller
2014-10-07 15:59       ` David Laight
2014-10-07 16:08         ` David Miller
2014-10-07 15:21   ` Zhou, Danny
2014-10-07 15:46     ` Willem de Bruijn
2014-10-07 15:55       ` John Fastabend
2014-10-07 16:06         ` Zhou, Danny
2014-10-07 16:05     ` David Miller
2014-10-10  3:49       ` Zhou, Danny
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-10-07 16:33 Alexei Starovoitov
2014-10-07 16:46 ` Zhou, Danny
2014-10-07 17:01 ` David Miller

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