From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com,
jerome.oufella@savoirfairelinux.com, andrew@lunn.ch,
cphealy@gmail.com, Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: implement HW bridging operations
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:03:01 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54E695D5.6080208@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150220000935.GA30118@roeck-us.net>
On 19/02/15 16:09, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 03:50:53PM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>> On 19/02/15 09:46, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:27:23AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/15 21:59, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 06:48:19PM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/02/15 11:26, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>>>>> Update the Broadcom Starfighter 2 switch driver to implement the
>>>>>>> join/leave/stp_update callbacks required for basic hardware bridging
>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is not much to be done at the driver level but translating the
>>>>>>> STP state from Linux to their HW values.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joining a bridge means that the joining port and the other port members
>>>>>>> need to be in the same VLAN membership as the CPU, while leaving the
>>>>>>> bridge puts the port back into a separate VLAN membership with only the
>>>>>>> CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found a couple additional issues while testing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - manipulating UP/DOWN state of interfaces that are part of a bridge
>>>>>> would not restore their bridge membership
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - removing an interface from a bridge and bringing it back up would
>>>>>> leave it in blocked state
>>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a problem with your implementation for sf2 or a generic problem
>>>>> with the first patch, such as some missing state transitions ?
>>>>
>>>> This is more of a side effect of having HW (an Ethernet switch) that can
>>>> really block a given port, based on last night's discussion with Roopa,
>>>> we can either fix this at the DSA level (in our case) or better fix this
>>>> at the bridge layer, I will propose a fix for this shortly.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For sf2, you might have to set the port state as well as the bridge
>>>>> association in the port_setup function. That is of course just a
>>>>> wild guess.
>>>>
>>>> Right, that's what I ended up doing. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Great.
>>>
>>> Another question: How do you handle flushing the forwarding database ?
>>>
>>> My current code for mv88e6352 flushes the forwarding database for a bridge
>>> group if the port association for that group changes (whenever a port joins
>>> or leaves a group, or whenever the state of a port in a group changes).
>>> There is, however, another situation where the forwarding database may
>>> have to be flushed - essentially on each topology change.
>>>
>>> How do you handle this situation ? Is it a real problem or do I just
>>> imagine that it is ?
>>
>> This is a real problem, for once I was working under the assumption that
>> the SF2 hardware was doing an automatic FDB flushing, but after
>> re-reading the documentation, this is not the case. My lab network does
>> not have many stations and I certainly did not catch that case.
>
> The rocker code implements the fdb flush operation pretty much the same
> way I do, so I seem to be doing something right.
>
> Not sure yet what to do about setting the fdb aging time. I don't see a
> mechanism to do that. No idea how important that is.
>
> I think we'll also need support for ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid, ndo_vlan_rx_kill_vid,
> ndo_fdb_add, ndo_fdb_del, and ndo_fdb_dump. Have you thought about those ?
Yes, we will need those as well, although for now, I think we might just
be able to get basic HW bridging to work with the current patches +
driver specific FDB flushing, what do you think?
The only part thing that I cannot really map to HW switches today is
that the ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid() does not specify whether the VLAN id you
are adding is tagged or untagged (aka native). You can configure that
using the "bridge" sub-command from iproute2, but I am not sure how this
translates in terms of programming the hardware with the tagged/untagged
bit yet.
Maybe we should update ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid() to allow for a tag bit to
specified?
--
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-20 2:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-17 19:26 [PATCH RFC 0/2] net: dsa: integration with SWITCHDEV for HW bridging Florian Fainelli
2015-02-17 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] net: dsa: integrate " Florian Fainelli
2015-02-17 20:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-17 20:24 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-17 20:28 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-18 1:19 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-18 1:43 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-18 3:53 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-18 4:53 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-18 6:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-18 13:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-18 14:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-23 2:20 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-23 3:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-23 4:07 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-23 4:22 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-23 4:33 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-23 4:38 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-23 4:43 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-23 6:19 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-23 13:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-23 14:23 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-23 16:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-23 18:05 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-23 18:35 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-25 13:43 ` Andrey Volkov
2015-02-25 14:25 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-25 16:05 ` Andrey Volkov
2015-02-25 17:41 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-26 1:18 ` Andrey Volkov
2015-02-27 17:09 ` Andrey Volkov
2015-02-28 7:53 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-02 14:38 ` Andrey Volkov
2015-03-02 14:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-02 15:27 ` Andrey Volkov
2015-03-02 17:16 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-04 10:07 ` Andrey Volkov
2015-02-17 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: implement HW bridging operations Florian Fainelli
2015-02-19 2:48 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-19 5:59 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-19 17:27 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-19 17:46 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-19 23:50 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-20 0:09 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20 0:51 ` roopa
2015-02-20 1:03 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20 1:46 ` roopa
2015-02-20 2:00 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-20 2:41 ` roopa
2015-02-20 4:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20 4:58 ` Scott Feldman
2015-02-20 4:59 ` roopa
2015-02-20 3:20 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-02-20 3:53 ` Viswanath Bandaru
2015-02-20 3:56 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-02-20 2:18 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-20 2:51 ` roopa
2015-02-20 3:52 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-20 4:07 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20 2:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-20 3:55 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20 2:03 ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2015-02-20 2:46 ` roopa
2015-02-18 0:48 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] net: dsa: integration with SWITCHDEV for HW bridging Scott Feldman
2015-02-18 1:09 ` Florian Fainelli
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