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From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Sowmini Varadhan <sowmini.varadhan@oracle.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	nhorman@tuxdriver.com, andy@greyhouse.net, tgraf@suug.ch,
	dborkman@redhat.com, ogerlitz@mellanox.com, jesse@nicira.com,
	jpettit@nicira.com, joestringer@nicira.com,
	john.r.fastabend@intel.com, sfeldma@gmail.com,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com,
	linville@tuxdriver.com, simon.horman@netronome.com,
	shrijeet@gmail.com, gospo@cumulusnetworks.com, bcrl@kvack.org
Subject: Named sockets WAS(Re: Flows! Offload them.
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:15:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F06E03.7050303@mojatatu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150226113942.GC1973@nanopsycho.lan>


Sorry - catching up with the discussion; so many parallel topics
buried..
I just wanna put my TU ("thumbs up", yes I didnt want to do the
pedestrian +1) for the named socket concept. With the explosion of
in-kernel sockets all which intend to do host protocol processing
this would be a very nice abstraction to have.
But i do believe this could also be useful for user space redirecting;
we already have very scalable socket code interfacing which could be
taken advantage of.

cheers,
jamal

On 02/26/15 06:39, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:22:52PM CET, sowmini.varadhan@oracle.com wrote:
>> On (02/26/15 08:42), Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>> 6) implement "named sockets" (working name) and implement TC support for that
>>>      -ingress qdisc attach, act_mirred target
>>> 7) allow tunnels (VXLAN, Geneve, GRE) to be created as named sockets
>>
>> Can you elaborate a bit on the above two?
>
> Sure. If you look into net/openvswitch/vport-vxlan.c for example, there
> is a socket created by vxlan_sock_add. vxlan_rcv is called on rx and
> vxlan_xmit_skb to xmit.
>
> What I have on mind is to allow to create tunnels using "ip" but not as
> a device but rather just as a wrapper of these functions (and others alike).
>
> To identify the instance we name it (OVS has it identified and vport).
> After that, tc could allow to attach ingress qdisk not only to a device,
> but to this named socket as well. Similary with tc action mirred, it would
> be possible to forward not only to a device, but to this named socket as
> well. All should be very light.
>
>
>>
>> FWIW I've been looking at the problem of RDS over TCP, which is
>> an instance of layered sockets that tunnels the application payload
>> in TCP.
>>
>> RDS over IB provides QoS support using the features available in
>> IB- to supply an analog of that for RDS-TCP, you'd need to plug
>> into tc's CBQ support, and also provide hooks for packet (.1p, dscp)
>> marking.
>>
>> Perhaps there is some overlap to what you are thinking of in #6 and #7
>> above?
>
> I'm not talking about QoS at all. See the description above.
>
> Jiri
>
>>
>> --Sowmini

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-27 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-26  7:42 Flows! Offload them Jiri Pirko
2015-02-26  8:38 ` Simon Horman
2015-02-26  9:16   ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-26 13:33     ` Thomas Graf
2015-02-26 15:23       ` John Fastabend
2015-02-26 20:16         ` Neil Horman
2015-02-26 21:11           ` John Fastabend
2015-02-27  1:17             ` Neil Horman
2015-02-27  8:53             ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-27 16:00               ` John Fastabend
2015-02-26 21:52           ` Simon Horman
2015-02-27  1:22             ` Neil Horman
2015-02-27  1:52               ` Tom Herbert
2015-03-02 13:49                 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-03-02 16:54                   ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-02 18:06                     ` Andy Gospodarek
     [not found]                     ` <CAGpadYEC3-5AdkOG66q0vX+HM0c6EU-C0ZT=sKGe7rZRHsYYKg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-03-02 22:13                       ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-02 22:43                         ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-03-02 22:49                           ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-27  8:41               ` Thomas Graf
2015-02-27 12:59                 ` Neil Horman
2015-03-01  9:36                 ` Arad, Ronen
2015-03-01 14:05                   ` Neil Horman
2015-03-02 14:16                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-03-01  9:47                 ` Arad, Ronen
2015-03-01 17:20                   ` Neil Horman
     [not found]       ` <CAGpadYGrjfkZqe0k7D05+cy3pY=1hXZtQqtV0J-8ogU80K7BUQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-26 15:39         ` John Fastabend
     [not found]           ` <CAGpadYHfNcDR2ojubkCJ8-nJTQkdLkPsAwJu0wOKU82bLDzhww@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-26 16:33             ` Thomas Graf
2015-02-26 16:53             ` John Fastabend
2015-02-27 13:33           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-02-27 15:23             ` John Fastabend
2015-03-02 13:45               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-02-26 17:38       ` David Ahern
2015-02-26 16:04     ` Tom Herbert
2015-02-26 16:17       ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-26 18:15         ` Tom Herbert
2015-02-26 19:05           ` Thomas Graf
2015-02-27  9:00           ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-28 20:02           ` David Miller
2015-02-28 21:31             ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-26 18:16       ` Scott Feldman
2015-02-26 11:22 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-02-26 11:39   ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-26 15:42     ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-02-27 13:15     ` Jamal Hadi Salim [this message]
2015-02-26 12:51 ` Thomas Graf
2015-02-26 13:17   ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-26 19:32 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-26 20:58   ` John Fastabend
2015-02-26 21:45     ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-26 23:06       ` John Fastabend
2015-02-27 18:37       ` Neil Horman
2015-02-27 14:01     ` Driver level interface WAS(Re: " Jamal Hadi Salim

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