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From: Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] ax25: Stop using magic neighbour cache operations.
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 10:14:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F82C9F.5050307@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mw3tzv8u.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

Hi,

On 03/03/15 20:22, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> writes:
>
>> From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
>> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 09:41:47 -0600
>>
>>> Before the ax25 stack calls dev_queue_xmit it always calls
>>> ax25_type_trans which sets skb->protocol to ETH_P_AX25.
>>>
>>> Which means that by looking at the protocol type it is possible to
>>> detect IP packets that have not been munged by the ax25 stack in
>>> ndo_start_xmit and call a function to munge them.
>>>
>>> Rename ax25_neigh_xmit to ax25_ip_xmit and tweak the return type and
>>> value to be appropriate for an ndo_start_xmit function.
>>>
>>> Update all of the ax25 devices to test the protocol type for ETH_P_IP
>>> and return ax25_ip_xmit as the first thing they do.  This preserves
>>> the existing semantics of IP packet processing, but the timing will be
>>> a little different as the IP packets now pass through the qdisc layer
>>> before reaching the ax25 ip packet processing.
>>>
>>> Remove the now unnecessary ax25 neighbour table operations.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>> Another nice cleanup, applied, thanks Eric.
> We can almost universally use the same procedures for generating
> link layer headers from neighbour table entries now.  I had hoped
> to optimized things by removing function pointers.
>
> The big hold out is DECnet that sets src_mac based on the DECnet source
> address.
That is a requirement of DECnet I'm afraid - DECnet does not have an 
exact equivalent of ARP/ndisc and many hosts will refuse to communicate 
if the MAC address is not the expected one based on the DECnet address. 
This is one bit of DECnet that is being used (to the best of my 
knowledge) and working.

> Which leads me to the conclusion that since DECnet has a different
> algorithm for setting the src_mac than everything else in the kernel
> DECnet neighbour table entries can not be used for nexthops for other
> protocols :(
>
> DECnet also abuses neigh->output to select by output device which kind
> of DECnet header to put on the packets.  But that is easily fixable.
One way to fix it would be to drop support for non-broadcast devices. We 
don't have an implementation of DDCMP currently. Ethernet is the only 
working DECnet device at the moment. PPP could also potentially work, 
with a bit of tweeking, but strangely PPP is a broadcast device so far 
as DECnet is concerned,

Steve.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-05 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-25 17:09 [PATCH net-next 0/8] Basic MPLS support Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-25 17:13 ` [PATCH net-next 1/8] mpls: Refactor how the mpls module is built Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-26  2:05   ` Simon Horman
2015-02-26  2:15     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-26  2:28       ` Simon Horman
2015-02-25 17:14 ` [PATCH net-next 2/8] mpls: Basic routing support Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-25 17:15 ` [PATCH net-next 3/8] mpls: Add a sysctl to control the size of the mpls label table Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-25 17:16 ` [PATCH net-next 4/8] mpls: Basic support for adding and removing routes Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-25 17:16 ` [PATCH net-next 5/8] mpls: Functions for reading and wrinting mpls labels over netlink Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-25 17:17 ` [PATCH net-next 6/8] mpls: Netlink commands to add, remove, and dump routes Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-25 17:18 ` [PATCH net-next 8/8] ipmpls: Basic device for injecting packets into an mpls tunnel Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05  9:17   ` Vivek Venkatraman
2015-03-05 14:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05 16:25       ` Vivek Venkatraman
2015-03-05 19:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-06  6:05           ` Vivek Venkatraman
2015-03-07 10:36           ` Robert Shearman
2015-03-07 21:12             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-25 17:19 ` [PATCH net-next 7/8] mpls: Multicast route table change notifications Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-26  7:21   ` roopa
2015-02-26 14:03     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-26 15:12       ` roopa
2015-03-05  1:56         ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-02-25 17:37 ` [PATCH iproute2] mpls: Add basic mpls support to iproute Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-26  6:58 ` [PATCH net-next 0/8] Basic MPLS support roopa
2015-02-27 21:21 ` David Miller
2015-02-28  0:58   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  0:05     ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-03-02  4:03     ` David Miller
2015-03-02  5:10       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  5:53         ` David Miller
2015-03-02  5:59         ` [PATCH net-next 0/15] Neighbour table and ax25 cleanups Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  5:59           ` [PATCH net-next 01/15] ax25: In ax25_rebuild_header add missing kfree_skb Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:01           ` [PATCH net-next 02/15] rose: Set the destination address in rose_header Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:02           ` [PATCH net-next 03/15] rose: Transmit packets in rose_xmit not rose_rebuild_header Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:03           ` [PATCH net-next 04/15] ax25/kiss: Replace ax_header_ops with ax25_header_ops Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:03           ` [PATCH net-next 05/15] ax25/6pack: Replace sp_header_ops " Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:04           ` [PATCH net-next 06/15] ax25: Make ax25_header and ax25_rebuild_header static Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:05           ` [PATCH net-next 07/15] ax25: Refactor to use private neighbour operations Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:06           ` [PATCH net-next 08/15] arp: Remove special case to give AX25 it's open arp operations Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:07           ` [PATCH net-next 09/15] neigh: Move neigh_compat_output into ax25_ip.c Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:08           ` [PATCH net-next 10/15] ax25: Stop calling/abusing dev_rebuild_header Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:09           ` [PATCH net-next 11/15] ax25: Stop depending on arp_find Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:11           ` [PATCH net-next 12/15] net: Kill dev_rebuild_header Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:12           ` [PATCH net-next 13/15] arp: Kill arp_find Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:13           ` [PATCH net-next 14/15] neigh: Don't require dst in neigh_hh_init Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02  6:14           ` [PATCH net-next 15/15] neigh: Don't require a dst in neigh_resolve_output Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-02 21:44           ` [PATCH net-next 0/15] Neighbour table and ax25 cleanups David Miller
2015-03-03 15:41             ` [PATCH net-next] ax25: Stop using magic neighbour cache operations Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-03 19:45               ` David Miller
2015-03-03 20:22                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-03 20:33                   ` David Miller
2015-03-03 23:09                     ` [PATCH net-next 0/2] Neighbour table prep for MPLS Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-03 23:10                       ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] neigh: Factor out ___neigh_lookup_noref Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04 14:53                         ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-03-04 15:58                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04 16:30                             ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-03-03 23:11                       ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] neigh: Add helper function neigh_xmit Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  1:06                       ` [PATCH net-next 0/7] Basic MPLS support take 2 Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  1:10                         ` [PATCH net-next 1/7] mpls: Refactor how the mpls module is built Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  1:10                         ` [PATCH net-next 2/7] mpls: Basic routing support Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05 16:36                           ` Vivek Venkatraman
2015-03-05 18:42                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  1:11                         ` [PATCH net-next 3/7] mpls: Add a sysctl to control the size of the mpls label table Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05  9:45                           ` Vivek Venkatraman
2015-03-05 13:22                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05 14:38                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05 16:49                                 ` Vivek Venkatraman
2015-03-04  1:12                         ` [PATCH net-next 4/7] mpls: Basic support for adding and removing routes Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  8:13                           ` roopa
2015-03-04 20:36                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05  0:30                               ` roopa
2015-03-05  2:50                               ` Bill Fink
2015-03-05 11:54                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05 19:10                                   ` Bill Fink
2015-03-04  1:13                         ` [PATCH net-next 5/7] mpls: Functions for reading and wrinting mpls labels over netlink Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  1:13                         ` [PATCH net-next 6/7] mpls: Netlink commands to add, remove, and dump routes Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  1:14                         ` [PATCH net-next 7/7] mpls: Multicast route table change notifications Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  5:27                         ` [PATCH net-next 0/7] Basic MPLS support take 2 David Miller
2015-03-04  6:13                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04  5:25                       ` [PATCH net-next 0/2] Neighbour table prep for MPLS David Miller
2015-03-04  5:53                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04 14:56                           ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-03-04 21:04                           ` David Miller
2015-03-05 12:35                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-05 10:14                   ` Steven Whitehouse [this message]
2015-03-06 20:44                     ` [PATCH net-next] ax25: Stop using magic neighbour cache operations Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-14  0:33                       ` Steven Whitehouse

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