From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>
Cc: "John Fastabend" <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
"Roopa Prabhu" <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Jiří Pírko" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
"Arad, Ronen" <ronen.arad@intel.com>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v2] switchdev: bridge: drop hardware forwarded packets
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:30:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <550C6729.5060706@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4R7bCC=VZerEfVRfn=NmQvE9bwQ-KGo7v77ghHOLAR5p5hwg@mail.gmail.com>
On 03/20/2015 11:13 AM, Scott Feldman wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM, John Fastabend
> <john.r.fastabend@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 03/20/2015 09:58 AM, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com wrote:
>>> From: Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>
>>>
>>> On a Linux bridge with bridge forwarding offloaded to switch ASIC,
>>> there is a need to not re-forward frames that have already been
>>> forwarded in hardware.
>>>
>>> Typically these are broadcast or multicast frames forwarded by the
>>> hardware to multiple destination ports including sending a copy of
>>> the packet to the cpu (kernel e.g. an arp broadcast).
>>> The bridge driver will try to forward the packet again, resulting in
>>> two copies of the same packet.
>>>
>>> These packets can also come up to the kernel for logging when they hit
>>> a LOG acl rule in hardware. In such cases, you do want the packet
>>> to go through the bridge netfilter hooks. Hence, this patch adds the
>>> required checks just before the packet is being xmited.
>>>
>>> v2:
>>> - Add a new hw_fwded flag in skbuff to indicate that the packet
>>> is already hardware forwarded. Switch driver will set this flag.
>>> I have been trying to avoid having this flag in the skb
>>> and thats why this patch has been in my tree for long. Cant think
>>> of other better alternatives. Suggestions are welcome. I have put
>>> this under CONFIG_NET_SWITCHDEV to minimize the impact.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Wilson Kok <wkok@cumulusnetworks.com>
>>> ---
>>
>> Interesting. I completely avoid this problem by not instantiating a
>> software bridge ;) When these pkts come up the stack I either use a
>> raw socket to capture them, put a 'tc' ingress rule to do something,
>> or have OVS handle them in some special way. It seems to me that this
>> is where the sw/hw model starts to break when you have these magic
>> bits to handle the packets differently.
>>
>> How do you know to set the skb bit? Do you have some indicator in the
>> descriptor? I don't have any good way to learn this on my hardware. But
>> I can assume if it reached the CPU it was because of some explicit rule.
>
> I was wondering that also, since there was no example.
>
> This features seems like it belongs in the bridge. We already have
> BR_FLOOD to indicate whether unknown unicast traffic is flooded to a
> bridge port. Can we add another BR_FLOOD_BCAST (or some name) for
> this new feature? You would set/clear this flag on the bridge
> (master) port. The default is set. And now:
>
> - #define BR_AUTO_MASK (BR_FLOOD | BR_LEARNING)
> + #define BR_AUTO_MASK (BR_FLOOD | BR_FLOOD_BCAST | BR_LEARNING)
>
> Does this work for your use-case, Roopa?
I'm probably being a bit dense but I can't think of a case where I would
want pkts forwarded back to the hardware. If you could explain a bit
more why this would be useful that would help me at least. Maybe a flag
to disable forwarding on the port would work. Perhaps using the
BR_STATE_* bits would be good enough?
.John
>
> -scott
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-20 18:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-20 16:58 [PATCH net-next RFC v2] switchdev: bridge: drop hardware forwarded packets roopa
2015-03-20 17:11 ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 18:13 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 18:30 ` John Fastabend [this message]
2015-03-20 22:06 ` roopa
2015-03-20 22:37 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 23:30 ` roopa
2015-03-21 0:26 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-21 5:53 ` roopa
2015-03-20 21:03 ` roopa
2015-03-20 21:23 ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 22:04 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-03-20 23:12 ` roopa
2015-03-20 18:03 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 21:20 ` roopa
2015-03-20 20:36 ` David Miller
2015-03-20 21:36 ` roopa
2015-03-20 22:09 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-03-20 23:43 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-03-23 0:22 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23 1:33 ` John Fastabend
2015-03-23 2:57 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23 3:18 ` John Fastabend
2015-03-23 3:33 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23 17:12 ` roopa
2015-03-24 5:59 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-24 13:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 18:08 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-24 14:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-24 16:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 17:45 ` roopa
2015-03-24 17:58 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 18:14 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-25 3:10 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-25 3:46 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-03-25 5:06 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-25 17:01 ` roopa
2015-03-26 7:44 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-26 8:20 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-26 14:28 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-26 14:49 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27 1:08 ` Simon Horman
2015-03-27 6:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27 6:43 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-27 7:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27 23:19 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-30 14:06 ` roopa
2015-03-24 18:48 ` David Christensen
2015-03-24 17:58 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-23 17:10 ` roopa
2015-03-23 14:00 ` roopa
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