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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>, roopa <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>
Cc: "John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jiří Pírko" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"Arad, Ronen" <ronen.arad@intel.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v2] switchdev: bridge: drop hardware forwarded packets
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 06:13:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55116303.4090000@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4R7bCcMtrKmiGaLqVMfERQxYZW3WD1vF2rts9+CE7ZZ0_BVQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/23/2015 10:59 PM, Scott Feldman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:12 AM, roopa <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com> wrote:
>> On 3/22/15, 8:33 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>
[ ... ]
>>
>> yep, so my first RFC listed three ways to do this,
>> 1) flag on the bridge port
>> 2) check if the port being forwarded to is a switch port, using
>>              - the offload flag
>>              - the parent id (as john fastabend pointed out)
>> 3) A per packet flag which switch driver sets indicating that the packet is
>> hw forwarded.
>>      This is because we have run into cases where we want to move to software
>> forwarding
>>      of certain packets like igmp reports.  (I will get some more details on
>> the particular igmp problem).
>>      In such case, hardware punts the igmp packet to cpu and cpu will do the
>> forwarding.
>>      I think we may hit more cases like this in the future.
>>
>> my RFC v1 was based on 1). RFC v2 was based on 3) above.
>>
>> But, for now, agree that we can just support the more common case using 2).
>> And, we can move to 3) in the future if needed.
>
> Roopa, I think it may be possible to do this without any changes to
> the bridge code or switchdev code by dropping duplicate pkts in the
> swdev driver itself.  The skb is marked with skb_iif set to ifindex of
> ingress port, so when the driver goes to egress a pkt on the port, if
> the skb_iif is one of the other device ports, we can assume the device
> did the fwd already so we can drop the duplicate pkt.  Below is the
> change to rocker.  The driver can get as fancy as it wants in its test
> to drop or not.  This solution works for mixed offload and
> non-offloaded ports in a bridge, or ports from different offload
> devices in the same bridge.
>
> Yes, the bridge is spending overhead to clone pkts to flood to its
> ports.  IGMP snooping mitigates this for mcast.  BR_FLOOD can be
> turned off on the bridge ports to mitigate this for unknown unicast
> floods.  So what's left is bcasts.
>
You would still want the soft bridge code to flood from non-switch ports
to switch ports and vice versa, as well as across multiple switches.
So I am not entirely sure I understand how turning off BR_FLOOD would help.

Thanks,
Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-24 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-20 16:58 [PATCH net-next RFC v2] switchdev: bridge: drop hardware forwarded packets roopa
2015-03-20 17:11 ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 18:13   ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 18:30     ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 22:06     ` roopa
2015-03-20 22:37       ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 23:30         ` roopa
2015-03-21  0:26           ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-21  5:53             ` roopa
2015-03-20 21:03   ` roopa
2015-03-20 21:23     ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 22:04       ` Andrew Lunn
2015-03-20 23:12       ` roopa
2015-03-20 18:03 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 21:20   ` roopa
2015-03-20 20:36 ` David Miller
2015-03-20 21:36   ` roopa
2015-03-20 22:09     ` Andrew Lunn
2015-03-20 23:43       ` Florian Fainelli
2015-03-23  0:22       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23  1:33         ` John Fastabend
2015-03-23  2:57           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23  3:18             ` John Fastabend
2015-03-23  3:33               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23 17:12                 ` roopa
2015-03-24  5:59                   ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-24 13:13                     ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2015-03-24 18:08                       ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-24 14:29                     ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-24 16:01                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 17:45                         ` roopa
2015-03-24 17:58                           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 18:14                             ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-25  3:10                               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-25  3:46                               ` Florian Fainelli
2015-03-25  5:06                                 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-25 17:01                                   ` roopa
2015-03-26  7:44                                     ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-26  8:20                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-26 14:28                                         ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-26 14:49                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27  1:08                                             ` Simon Horman
2015-03-27  6:02                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27  6:43                                             ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-27  7:01                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27 23:19                                                 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-30 14:06                                       ` roopa
2015-03-24 18:48                             ` David Christensen
2015-03-24 17:58                         ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-23 17:10           ` roopa
2015-03-23 14:00         ` roopa

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