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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	"open list:NETWORKING [GENERAL]" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] NFSD: add write_ports to netlink command
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 13:10:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55283b0a01d3b3ae2eb965929a6d81256a48b11e.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <917EC07C-C9D9-4CF2-9ACB-DCA2676DFF67@oracle.com>

On Wed, 2024-01-24 at 13:55 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote:
> 
> > On Jan 24, 2024, at 6:24 AM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 2024-01-24 at 10:52 +0100, Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > That's a great question. We do need to properly support the -H option to
> > > > rpc.nfsd. What we do today is look up the hostname or address using
> > > > getaddrinfo, and then open a listening socket for that address and then
> > > > pass that fd down to the kernel, which I think then takes the socket and
> > > > sticks it on sv_permsocks.
> > > > 
> > > > All of that seems a bit klunky. Ideally, I'd say the best thing would be
> > > > to allow userland to pass the sockaddr we look up directly via netlink,
> > > > and then let the kernel open the socket. That will probably mean
> > > > refactoring some of the svc_xprt_create machinery to take a sockaddr,
> > > > but I don't think it looks too hard to do.
> > > 
> > > Do we already have a specific use case for it? I think we can even add it
> > > later when we have a defined use case for it on top of the current series.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes:
> > 
> > rpc.nfsd -H makes nfsd listen on a particular address and port. By
> > passing down the sockaddr instead of an already-opened socket
> > descriptor, we can achieve the goal without having to open sockets in
> > userland.
> 
> Tearing down a listener that was created that way would be a
> use case for:
> 
> > Do we ever want/need to remove listening sockets?
> > Normal practice when making any changes is to stop and restart where
> > "stop" removes all sockets, unexports all filesystems, disables all
> > versions.
> 

Good point. Even if we don't want to allow it today, passing down a
sockaddr over netlink gives us an interface to properly match a
listening socket for shutting them down without taking down the server. 

It would be a little silly to make userland open a socket in order to
close the one that nfsd is listening on.
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-24 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-20 17:33 [PATCH v6 0/3] convert write_threads, write_version and write_ports to netlink commands Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-20 17:33 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] NFSD: convert write_threads to netlink command Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-20 17:33 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] NFSD: add write_version " Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-22 13:27   ` Jeff Layton
2024-01-20 17:33 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] NFSD: add write_ports " Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-22 13:41   ` Jeff Layton
2024-01-22 15:35     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-22 15:50       ` Jeff Layton
2024-01-22 15:59         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-22 21:35     ` NeilBrown
2024-01-22 21:37       ` Jeff Layton
2024-01-22 22:58       ` Chuck Lever
2024-01-23  9:59         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-23 11:17           ` Jeff Layton
2024-01-23 13:21             ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-23 14:28               ` Jeff Layton
2024-01-24  9:52                 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-01-24 11:24                   ` Jeff Layton
2024-01-24 13:55                     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-01-24 18:10                       ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2024-01-25 22:44                       ` NeilBrown
2024-01-26  2:38                         ` Chuck Lever III
2024-01-26  7:27                           ` NeilBrown
2024-01-26 13:58                         ` Chuck Lever III
2024-01-22 16:31   ` kernel test robot
2024-01-22 13:49 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] convert write_threads, write_version and write_ports to netlink commands Jeff Layton
2024-01-22 17:01   ` Lorenzo Bianconi

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