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From: Arend van Spriel <arend-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alan Stern
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Subject: Re: [RESEND][PATCH] Bluetooth: Make request workqueue freezable
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 19:27:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555E158D.4090607@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hsiaq3pv4.wl-tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>

On 05/21/15 17:35, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Thu, 21 May 2015 11:26:17 -0400 (EDT),
> Alan Stern wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 21 May 2015, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>
>>> At Thu, 21 May 2015 10:18:08 -0400 (EDT),
>>> Alan Stern wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 May 2015, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then avoiding the failed firmware is no solution, indeed.
>>>>> If it's a new probe, it should be never executed during resume.
>>>>
>>>> Can you expand this comment?  What's wrong with probing during resume?
>>>
>>> Well, if the probe requires the access to a user-space file, it can't
>>> be done during resume.  That's the very problem we're seeing now.
>>> The firmware loader can't help much alone if it's a new device
>>> object.
>>
>> But the same thing happens during early boot, if the driver is built
>> into the kernel.  When the probe occurs, userspace isn't up and running
>> yet, so the firmware loader can't do anything.
>>
>> Why should probe during resume be any worse than probe during early
>> boot?
>
> The early boot has initrd, so the files can be there.  But the resume
> has no way to fetch the file except for cached data.

but initrd is optional so without initrd it is pretty much the same.

Regards,
Arend

> Takashi
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-21 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-12  0:52 [RESEND][PATCH] Bluetooth: Make request workqueue freezable Laura Abbott
2015-05-12  1:07 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-12  1:46   ` Laura Abbott
2015-05-12 15:14     ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-13  1:18       ` Laura Abbott
     [not found]         ` <5552A655.2030005-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19  9:46           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-19 14:26             ` Alan Stern
2015-05-19 14:52               ` Oliver Neukum
2015-05-19 15:22               ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-19 17:17                 ` Alan Stern
2015-05-19 17:13               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-19 17:42                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                   ` <1432057375.3970.4.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20  6:29                     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-20  8:40                       ` Oliver Neukum
2015-05-20  9:46                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-20 12:44                           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-20 23:42                             ` Laura Abbott
2015-05-21  4:21                               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 12:07                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-21 12:36                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 14:18                                     ` Alan Stern
2015-05-21 14:39                                       ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]                                         ` <33C25745-6839-4858-9A3E-19EC6408ECED-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 15:26                                           ` Alan Stern
2015-05-21 15:35                                             ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                                               ` <s5hsiaq3pv4.wl-tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 17:27                                                 ` Arend van Spriel [this message]
2015-05-21 17:32                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 20:46                                                     ` Arend van Spriel
     [not found]                                                       ` <555E442A.808-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22 11:30                                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2015-05-21 17:37                                                 ` Alan Stern
2015-05-21 18:11                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 18:17                                                     ` Laura Abbott
2015-05-22  0:21                                             ` Laura Abbott
     [not found]                                               ` <555E767B.2040808-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22  3:13                                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-28  0:47                                                   ` Laura Abbott
     [not found]                                                   ` <DF182762-5B64-4B76-8D3E-AF3728102881-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  1:14                                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] Bluetooth: Add reset_resume function Laura Abbott
     [not found]                                                       ` <1433207682-15064-1-git-send-email-labbott-rxtnV0ftBwyoClj4AeEUq9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  1:28                                                         ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]                                                           ` <BB3BCC01-8BF0-4A17-B8E6-F17B875F1997-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02 14:17                                                             ` Josh Boyer
     [not found]                                                               ` <CA+5PVA6o2=dF5BrJQojhMjJhsAiM9vaADd_ix3SAvVEbLXkjCQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02 15:07                                                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-06-02  7:47                                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2015-06-02  1:14                                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] Bluetooth: btusb: " Laura Abbott
     [not found]                                                       ` <1433207682-15064-2-git-send-email-labbott-rxtnV0ftBwyoClj4AeEUq9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  1:32                                                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-22  7:37                                                 ` [RESEND][PATCH] Bluetooth: Make request workqueue freezable Arend van Spriel
2015-05-22  7:41                                                   ` Arend van Spriel
2015-05-21 15:04                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-20 10:02                         ` Ming Lei

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