From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-can@vger.kernel.org" <linux-can@vger.kernel.org>,
Sunil Kovvuri <sunil.kovvuri@gmail.com>,
Jonathon Reinhart <jonathon.reinhart@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fighting out-of-order reception with RPS?
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:36:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55A02CDB.6000302@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALx6S37JjusJ=+L3mXT0Dzf8XuU0+dgJQ7_Xn4U0nBtkf0gCHQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 07/10/2015 04:48 AM, Tom Herbert wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net> wrote:
>> Both drivers do not use NAPI. The just follow the way
>>
>> interrupt -> alloc_skb() -> fill skb -> netif_rx(skb)
>>
>> I'm usually testing with the USB adapters as the PCIe setup is not very
>> handy.
>>
> Okay, I see what is happening. In netif_rx when RPS is not enabled
> that packet is queued to the backlog queue for the local CPU. Since
> you're doing round robin on the interrupts then OOO packets can be a
> result. Unfortunately, this is the expected behavior. The correct
> kernel fix would be to move to these drivers to use NAPI.
Hm. Doesn't sound like a good solution when there's a difference between NAPI
and non-NAPI drivers in matters of OOO, right?
> RPS
> eliminates the OOO, but if there is no ability to derive a flow hash
> from packets everything will wind up one queue without load balancing.
Correct.
That's why I added
skb_set_hash(skb, dev->ifindex, PKT_HASH_TYPE_L2);
in my driver, because the only relevant flow identifiction is the number of
the incoming CAN interface.
> Besides that, automatically setting RPS in drivers is a difficult
> proposition since there is no definitively "correct" way to do that in
> an arbitrary configuration.
What about checking in netif_rx() if the non-NAPI driver has set a hash (aka
the driver is OOO sensitive)?
And if so we could automatically set rps_cpus for this interface in a way that
all CPUs are enabled to take skbs following the hash.
Best regards,
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-10 20:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-08 17:49 Fighting out-of-order reception with RPS? Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-08 21:17 ` Tom Herbert
2015-07-09 5:55 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-10 2:48 ` Tom Herbert
2015-07-10 20:36 ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2015-07-11 4:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-07-12 19:15 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-13 3:22 ` David Miller
2015-07-13 4:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-07-14 17:09 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-14 18:02 ` Tom Herbert
2015-07-14 19:03 ` David Miller
2015-07-14 19:05 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-13 19:08 ` Tom Herbert
2015-07-09 6:34 ` Holger Schurig
2015-07-09 8:48 ` Oliver Hartkopp
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