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From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: Jiri Benc <jbenc@redhat.com>
Cc: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, thaller@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: try harder to not reuse ifindex when moving interfaces
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:23:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5628FF7A.5040807@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151022170100.1e45a8b8@griffin>

Le 22/10/2015 17:00, Jiri Benc a écrit :
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:52:13 +0200, Nicolas Dichtel wrote:
>> With the proposed scenario:
>> 1. create netns 'new_netns'
>> 2. in root netns, move the interface with ifindex 2 to new_netns
>> 3. in new_netns, delete the interface with ifindex 2
>> 4. in new_netns, create an interface - it will get ifindex 2
>>
>> Operation 2 and 4 are done by dev_change_net_namespace() under rtnl_lock().
>> RTM_DELLINK(root netns) and RTM_NEWLINK(new_netns) are sent by this function.
>> It means that operation 3 has been done before and that RTM_DELLINK(new_netns)
>> has been sent before.
>
> Imagine the application trying to configure the interface with ifindex 2
> after your step 2. It constructs a netlink message and sends it to the
> kernel; but while doing so, steps 3 and 4 happen. Now the application
> ends up configuring a different interface than it intended to. After
> that, it polls the netlink socket and receives the notifications about
> interface disappearing and a new one appearing.
Understood.

>
> I don't see any way the user space application can prevent this. There
> will always be a race between receiving netlink notifications and
> sending config requests.
Yeah, I'm also starting to think that reducing this window is the way to go.


Thank you,
Nicolas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-22 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-16 11:07 [PATCH net] net: try harder to not reuse ifindex when moving interfaces Jiri Benc
2015-10-18 15:11 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-19  9:06   ` Jiri Benc
2015-10-19 15:36     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-21 14:43 ` David Miller
2015-10-21 14:46   ` Jiri Benc
2015-10-21 15:32     ` David Miller
2015-10-21 15:25       ` Jiri Benc
2015-10-21 15:56         ` David Miller
2015-10-21 17:12           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-22 14:52             ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-10-22 15:00               ` Jiri Benc
2015-10-22 15:10                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-22 15:20                 ` Thomas Haller
2015-10-22 15:23                 ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
2015-10-22 16:45                 ` Thomas Graf
2015-10-22 17:21                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-22 18:56                     ` Thomas Graf
2015-10-23 10:40                       ` Thomas Haller
2015-10-22 15:21               ` Thomas Haller

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