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From: "Ian McDonald" <ian.mcdonald@jandi.co.nz>
To: johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru
Cc: "Alexey Kuznetsov" <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Netchannles: first stage has been completed. Further ideas.
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:40:32 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5640c7e00607201440v38911f9ble6dbee9f6725be99@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060720210849.GA28715@tservice.net.ru>

>
> If we consider netchannels as how Van Jackobson discribed them, then
> mutext is not needed, since it is impossible to have several readers or
> writers. But in socket case even if there is only one userspace
> consumer, that lock must be held to protect against bh (or introduce
> several queues and complicate a lot their's management (ucopy for
> example)).
>
As I recall Van's talk you don't need a lock with a ring buffer if you
have a start and end variable pointing to location within ring buffer.

He didn't explain this in great depth as it is computer science 101
but here is how I would explain it:

Once socket is initialiased consumer is the only one that sets start
variable and network driver reads this only. It is the other way
around for the end variable. As long as the writes are atomic then you
are fine. You only need one ring buffer in this scenario and two
atomic variables.

Having atomic writes does have overhead but far less than locking semantic.
-- 
Ian McDonald
Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4
Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com
WAND Network Research Group
Department of Computer Science
University of Waikato
New Zealand

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-20 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-18  8:16 Netchannles: first stage has been completed. Further ideas Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-18  8:34 ` David Miller
2006-07-18  8:50   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-18 11:16 ` Christian Borntraeger
2006-07-18 11:51   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-18 12:36     ` Christian Borntraeger
2006-07-18 19:11       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-18 21:20         ` David Miller
2006-07-18 12:15 ` Jörn Engel
2006-07-18 19:08   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-19 11:00     ` Jörn Engel
2006-07-20  7:42       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-18 23:01 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-07-19  0:39   ` David Miller
2006-07-19  5:38   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-19  6:30     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-19 13:19     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-07-20  7:32       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-20 16:41         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-07-20 21:08           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-20 21:21             ` Ben Greear
2006-07-21  7:19               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-21  7:20                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-21 16:14                 ` Ben Greear
2006-07-21 16:27                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-22 13:23                   ` Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-20 21:40             ` Ian McDonald [this message]
2006-07-21  7:26               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-20 22:59             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-07-21  4:55               ` David Miller
2006-07-21  7:10                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-21  7:47                   ` David Miller
2006-07-21  9:06                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-21  9:19                       ` David Miller
2006-07-21  9:39                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-21  9:46                           ` David Miller
2006-07-21  9:55                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-21 16:26                 ` Rick Jones
2006-07-21 20:57                   ` David Miller
2006-07-19 19:52   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-07-19 20:01     ` David Miller
2006-07-19 20:16       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-07-24 18:54       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-07-24 20:52         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-07-27  2:17   ` Rusty Russell
2006-07-27  5:17     ` David Miller
2006-07-27  5:46       ` Rusty Russell
2006-07-27  6:00         ` David Miller
2006-07-27 18:54           ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-07-28  8:21             ` David Miller
2006-07-28  5:54           ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-01  4:47             ` David Miller
2006-08-01  6:36               ` Rusty Russell
2006-07-27 16:33         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-07-27 16:51           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 20:56             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-07-28  5:17               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28  5:34                 ` David Miller
2006-07-28  5:47                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28  4:49           ` Rusty Russell

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